Energy of a material with permanent polarization

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In electrostatics, the energy density formula W = 1/2 E · D is challenged by materials with permanent polarization. The formula fails because it assumes the presence of free charge, which is not applicable in purely polarized materials where ρ = 0. This leads to the conclusion that the total energy would incorrectly predict zero. Alternative derivations using Maxwell's equations suggest that energy can still be calculated in these systems. Understanding the role of polarization is crucial for accurate energy calculations in dielectric materials.
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In electrostatics, for what I understand the when I have an electric field, the density of the energy stored in it is given by the following formula:
$$W = \frac{1 }{2} E \cdot D$$But when there is some material permantent polarization the above formula fails to work.
Is this correct?
How can the energy be calculated?
 
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Rafael said:
But when there is some material permantent polarization the above formula fails to work.
Why does it fail?
 
Dale said:
Why does it fail?
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is derived from:

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But ρ is the free charge:
$$ρ = \nabla \cdot D$$

In a system with just a electrical polarizated material there isn`t free charge (ρ = 0), so the formula above should predict that the total energy is 0.
 
Hmm, I am not sure where you got that derivation, but it is not the only way. From Maxwell’s macroscopic equations you can easily get ##\partial_t W_E=E\cdot \partial_t D##. Then if we assume a linear dispersionless medium ##D=\epsilon E## then we get ##\partial_t W_E=\partial_t (\frac{1}{2}E\cdot D)## so therefore ##W_E=\frac{1}{2}E\cdot D##
 
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