Equation for momentum with headwind

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The original poster is working on an assignment to develop an equation for the momentum of a truck moving into a headwind. The problem involves understanding the interaction between the truck's motion and the wind, with specific reference to the truck's mass, speed, and the wind's speed.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the headwind on the truck's momentum and question whether the wind can be considered a force acting on the truck. There is exploration of whether the truck is moving at constant speed or accelerating, and how the wind affects the truck's motion.

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Participants are engaging in a productive exploration of concepts related to momentum and forces. Some guidance has been offered regarding the mass of air and its relevance to the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the specifics of the equation or the treatment of the wind as a force.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on using equations to guide thinking, and participants are considering the effects of temperature on air density as part of their reasoning. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to incorporate the headwind into their calculations.

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Homework Statement



I'm working on an assignment where I need to develop an equation for the momentum of a truck of mass m moving at speed v into a headwind of speed V. Road temperature is T. The goal of this problem is for me to learn to use equations to guide my thinking.


Homework Equations



p = mv
Ft = mv



The Attempt at a Solution



Ah, I'm stuck not knowing how to handle the headwind.
 
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ƩF=dp/dt
... so what happens as the truck barrels forward - are you imagining a constant speed or accelerating?
What does the truck to to the air and how does that affect the truck?
 
Simon Bridge said:
ƩF=dp/dt
... so what happens as the truck barrels forward - are you imagining a constant speed or accelerating?
What does the truck to to the air and how does that affect the truck?

Thanks Simon. Yes, constant speed until it hits the headwind.
 
OK - so the net force is the push from the wind?
How does the wind push on the truck?
 
Simon Bridge said:
OK - so the net force is the push from the wind?
How does the wind push on the truck?

I hadn't thought of the wind as a force since the problem was defining truck speed and wind speed. Hmm...

The wind is pushing head on in the opposite direction the truck is driving (if truck is driving north, wind is pushing south, for example).

I'm trying to use equations to guide my thinking. So, if the truck's momentum is mv (mass of truck x truck's velocity), can the wind have momentum given that it doesn't have mass (kg). In a way this is similar to a collision problem, but the wind has no mass, only velocity.

Thanks again!
 
Of course the wind has mass - air is made up of matter.
Now you can think in terms of collisions: every second, the truck gets hit by a volume of air that depends on the speed of the wind and the speed of the truck and something else. Knowing the local temperature, you can find the (approximate) mass-density of the air. You'll have to use the equations to guide your assumptions.

You have to use the equations ... so I think that is as far as I can go.
When you are done thinking about conservation of momentum, you could have a look at conservation of energy.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Of course the wind has mass - air is made up of matter.
Now you can think in terms of collisions: every second, the truck gets hit by a volume of air that depends on the speed of the wind and the speed of the truck and something else. Knowing the local temperature, you can find the (approximate) mass-density of the air. You'll have to use the equations to guide your assumptions.

You have to use the equations ... so I think that is as far as I can go.
When you are done thinking about conservation of momentum, you could have a look at conservation of energy.

Thank you again, have a great evening.
 

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