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The problem involves finding an equation of a line through a specific point in three-dimensional space that is orthogonal to another given line. The context includes vector equations and the concept of orthogonality in vector spaces.

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  • Participants discuss the direction of the given line and how to find a direction for the new line that passes through point A. There are suggestions to express points on the given line in parametric form and to explore the orthogonal projection of vectors.

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Several participants have offered insights into the mathematical relationships involved, such as the conditions for orthogonality and the form of the line equations. There is ongoing exploration of how to ensure the new line intersects with the given line, as well as questions about the parameters involved.

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Participants are questioning the assumptions regarding the conditions for orthogonality and intersection, and there are mentions of potential additional parameters that may be necessary for the equations.

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Homework Statement



Find an equation of the line through the point A (4,5,5) which meets the line (x-11)/3 = (y+8)/-1 = z-4 at right angles.

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well i know that the direction of the given line is d(3,-1,1) and the original line crosses through the point (11,-8,4)

The direction of the new line must be able to dot with the old line to get 0 (thus right angles).

I don't know how to find a direction that i know will pass through A.

Help or hint please
 
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You can write any point P on the given line in parametric form, e.g. (x = t, y = a function of t, z = another function of t). Then you can write the direction of AP in terms of t.
 
So, you have point A and point P (P on the line). what can you do with the orthogonal projection of AP onto the given line? from there, how can you find a vector that points from the line to A and that is orthogonal to <3,-1,1> ?
 
There are two common ways to write a vector equation of a line:

i. Given two points, say P and Q, an equation of the line through P and Q (in that order as t ranges over [0,1]) is given by

[tex]\vec{r}(t)=\vec{Q}t+\vec{P}(1-t)[/tex] or [tex]\vec{r}(t)=\vec{P}+\left(\vec{Q}-\vec{P}\right) t[/tex]​

notice that [tex]\vec{Q}-\vec{P}[/tex] is a vector in the direction of the line, hence

ii. Given a point and a vector in the direction of a line, say point P and vector [tex]\vec{v}[/tex], we have an equation of the line through P and parallel to [tex]\vec{v}[/tex] is given by

[tex]\vec{r}(t)=\vec{P}+\vec{v} t[/tex]​
 
Any vector, <a,b,c>, perpendicular to <3, -1, 1> must satisfy 3a-b+ c= 0 or c= b- 3a. Such a line passing through (4, 5, 5) must be of the form (x-4)/a= (y- 5)/b= (z-5)/(b- 3a). Now, what are the conditions on a and b, in order to ensure that (x-4)/a= (y- 5)/b= (z-5)/(b- 3a) intersects (x-11)/3 = (y+8)/-1 = z-4 ?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Any vector, <a,b,c>, perpendicular to <3, -1, 1> must satisfy 3a-b+ c= 0 or c= b- 3a. Such a line passing through (4, 5, 5) must be of the form (x-4)/a= (y- 5)/b= (z-5)/(b- 3a). Now, what are the conditions on a and b, in order to ensure that (x-4)/a= (y- 5)/b= (z-5)/(b- 3a) intersects (x-11)/3 = (y+8)/-1 = z-4 ?

couple questions

Any vector, <a,b,c>, perpendicular to <3, -1, 1> must satisfy 3a-b+ c= 0

shouldnt there be a D value such that 3a-b+c+d=0

and how do i make sure they intersect
 
canadian_beef said:
couple questions

Any vector, <a,b,c>, perpendicular to <3, -1, 1> must satisfy 3a-b+ c= 0

shouldnt there be a D value such that 3a-b+c+d=0

and how do i make sure they intersect



cant I just make up any A and B values and it will work?
 

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