Equivalence equation between cross section & half life?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential equivalence between cross section and half-life in the context of nuclear reactions and decay processes. Participants explore whether an equation can relate these two concepts, particularly in the context of beta decay and other nuclear reactions.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire if there is an equation that associates half-life with cross section to evaluate the speed of nuclear reactions.
  • It is noted that half-life is a property dependent solely on the material, while cross section does not have a direct equivalent that incorporates time.
  • One participant suggests that beta decay may require the concept of cross section due to its nature as a nuclear reaction.
  • Another participant argues that interactions, such as those described by cross sections, cannot be calculated in terms of half-life since they do not represent decay processes.
  • There is mention of calculating half-life from resonance widths, indicating a relationship between decay width and half-life.
  • A participant explains that in the Standard Model, half-life can be derived from the probabilities of various decay paths, which may involve cross-section data but are not solely defined by it.
  • It is highlighted that decay processes governed by the strong force tend to occur more rapidly than those governed by the weak force.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between half-life and cross section, with no consensus reached. Some argue for a conceptual link, while others assert that they represent fundamentally different properties.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that the relationship between half-life and cross section may depend on specific conditions, such as temperature and density in fusion reactions, and that half-life does not apply in the same way to interactions as it does to decay processes.

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Is there equivalence equation between cross section & half life?
For beta decay, we usually use half life to describe how fast or slow the decay undergo.
For nuclear reaction, we use cross section to describe the possibility of reaction.
In a sense, they reflect the same root physics spirit.
Is there equation to associate half life and cross section? So as to assess nuclear reaction how fast or slow.
For example, Co-60 half life about 5 years, if other reaction can consume half reactants in 5 years, then its cross section can be regarded as equivalent to half life 5 years.
 
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The half-life depends on the material only. There is no equivalent material property for reactions (where a cross section would appear) that have a unit of time.
 
mfb said:
The half-life depends on the material only. There is no equivalent material property for reactions (where a cross section would appear) that have a unit of time.
I think beta decay is a special nuclear reaction: (e,neutrino) for electron capture beta+, or (neutrino, e) for beta-, so it may need concept of cross section.
 
mfb said:
The half-life depends on the material only. There is no equivalent material property for reactions (where a cross section would appear) that have a unit of time.
or given cross section 5b at perfect high temperature for D+T = n + alpha, how to calculate the half life of D+T mix, i.e. half fuel consumed.
 
you cannot calculate it because it's an interaction and not a decay.
For decays of resonances the half life can be determined by the width of the resonance (the \Gamma) by \tau = \frac{1}{\Gamma}.
 
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kiwaho said:
I think beta decay is a special nuclear reaction: (e,neutrino) for electron capture beta+, or (neutrino, e) for beta-, so it may need concept of cross section.
No. You can have a cross section if you shoot an electron beam on a target, but then the reaction rate will depend on the beam intensity.
kiwaho said:
or given cross section 5b at perfect high temperature for D+T = n + alpha, how to calculate the half life of D+T mix, i.e. half fuel consumed.
You'll need the density and temperature of your fusion plasma to predict how its density goes down. It does not go down exponentially, so a half life doesn't make sense even if you fix those free parameters.
 
In the Standard Model, the way that you determine half-life from first principles is to determine the probability of a decay into every possible physically permitted decay path (a data set from which it is trivial to determine the cross-section data), which are added in a consistent and correct manner, to determine the half-life of the particle.

Normally the decays are determined by doing the calculation of the "decay width" for each possible path, something that in principle can involve cross-sections as part of the determination, but that is not the complete story. The decay width for any particular path can be converted to a probability of decay by that path within a particular time period and the total decay width can be converted to a half life.

Half-life and mean lifetime can be converted to each other by a factor of roughly 1.44.

The probability of decay for each path is computed independently of the probability of decay for every other path based upon Standard Model constants such as the relevant coupling constants. In general, the more ways a particle can decay, and the more probable each such possibility is, the shorter the half-life of the particle. A physics stack exchange answer on the topic is http://physics.stackexchange.com/qu...cay-width-and-why-is-it-given-in-energy-units

Decays via the strong force are generally more rapid than decays via the weak force.

A cross-section would often be quoted as a fraction of 100% which normalizes the results for individual decay paths against the total probability of decay for all decay paths.
 

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