Equivalent energy stored in compressed gas

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the efficiency of a compressed air motor by calculating the energy stored in compressed gas. Participants explore methods for measuring input parameters such as pressure and flow rate, as well as output power, to assess conversion efficiency.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Bitman, seeks to understand how to calculate the energy stored in compressed air to determine the efficiency of a compressed air motor.
  • Another participant, pixel01, provides a formula for calculating the energy stored in compressed air, noting that it is an approximation based on adiabatic conditions.
  • Bitman asks for clarification on the variables in the formula, specifically regarding the number of moles of gas and the units of energy.
  • Bitman suggests that the energy in the exhaust gas should also be considered, particularly in relation to temperature differences.
  • Pixel01 confirms that the energy is expressed in Joules and emphasizes the importance of accounting for dynamic energy in the exhaust calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to be in agreement on the need to calculate the energy stored in compressed air and the importance of considering various factors, such as temperature and flow rate. However, there remains some uncertainty regarding the specifics of the calculations and the assumptions involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the adiabatic process and the constancy of temperature, which may not hold true in all scenarios. The relationship between the energy calculations and the efficiency of the motor is also not fully resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in the efficiency of compressed air systems, thermodynamics, and energy calculations in mechanical applications.

bitman
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Hi All

I'm trying to work out a method to determine the efficiency of a compressed air motor.

Obviously I can measure the input pressure and flow rate of the compressed air, and I can measure the output power of the motor with a dynomometer.

What I want to know is how much energy is stored in the incoming gases in order to get the conversion efficiency (if this is the correct way to do it).

If anyone has done this or knows how to, your help would be much appreciated.

Many thanks

Bitman
 
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First you should know the energy stored in one volume unit of compressed aire:

E = RnT(ln(V)-ln(v))
where R = gas constant
T = temp (K)
v = 1 (m3) at the working pressure P
V= volume of v but at 1 bar (via ideal gas law
n= the number of moles of V (via ideal gas law)

with E you can identify the power via flow rate (m3/sec ...)

PS. the above equation is an approximate one because I consider the process is adiabatic. In reality, it is not.
 
Hi pixel01

Thanks for your reply. Could you just clear up a few points for me.

Is n the number of moles of gas in 1 m3 ?

Is E the answer in Watts ?

Presumably I need to work out the amount of energy for the incoming gas and subtract the amount of energy left in the exhaust gas taking into account the differing temperatures.

Thanks for your help.

Bitman
 
bitman said:
Hi pixel01

Thanks for your reply. Could you just clear up a few points for me.

Is n the number of moles of gas in 1 m3 ?

Is E the answer in Watts ?

Presumably I need to work out the amount of energy for the incoming gas and subtract the amount of energy left in the exhaust gas taking into account the differing temperatures.

Thanks for your help.

Bitman

E = energy stored in 1 m3 of compressed air, so it is in Joules
n= the number of moles in 1 m3
The flow rate then is in in m3/sec.
For calculating the energy in exhaust gas, you should take into account the dynamic energy.
The temperature is assumed constant, say 298 K.
 
Hi pixel01

Many thanks for a clear and comprehensive answer.

Best Regards

Bitman
 

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