Error tolerance in coil design (number of turns)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of a coil with specific parameters, focusing on the expected error tolerance in wire length for a given number of turns. Participants explore the implications of wire insulation and winding methods on the calculations involved in coil design.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the design specifications of a coil, including the number of turns and wire gauge, and questions the expected error tolerance in wire length calculations.
  • Another participant inquires about the winding method (layer wound or random wound) and suggests that the fill factor may affect the outcome.
  • A different participant humorously compares the situation to a math exercise, suggesting that having extra wire is a practical solution to ensure sufficient length.
  • One participant recommends using a different wire gauge in an online calculator to estimate wire length, noting the imprecision of such calculations and emphasizing the need for spare wire.
  • Concerns are raised about the number of turns fitting on the bobbin, indicating that this may be a significant factor in the design process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the best approach to estimating wire length and the importance of accounting for insulation and winding methods. There is no consensus on a definitive method for calculating error tolerance.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the specific winding method and the imprecision of calculations due to wire insulation thickness. The discussion does not resolve how these factors quantitatively affect the final design.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals involved in coil design, electrical engineering, or those interested in practical applications of wire winding techniques may find this discussion relevant.

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I am designing a coil which will have 2100 turns of 30AWG wire.
The bobbin diameter is 1.045" and the length is 1.28"

From my calculations I will use about 8,420 inches of wire.
I tried an online calc but they did not take into account that the wire I am using has a heavy insulation so it's diamter is about .0115".

As we know things is the real world are usually somewhat different.

My question is how much of an error tolerance I should expect in terms of wire length for the 2100 turns? And should I expect to use more or less wire than calculated?

Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Layer wound or random wound?
If layer what is layer insulation?
If random wound, depends on winder. Assume maybe 60% fill?
 
Is this a math exercise? Like how many balls can you fit in a can?!

Just get extra wire and wind it, point is you want to have extra to make sure you have enough!
 
You could go back to the online calculator and tell it you have 26 gauge wire. This has a diameter of 0.0159 inches which is close enough to your wire with its thick insulation.

But it is an imprecise business and difficult to calculate exactly, so you do need to have some spare wire.

The main problem may be how many turns you can fit on your bobbin.
 

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