Estimate the potential of the cloud relative to the ground

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To estimate the potential of a thundercloud relative to the ground, the correct approach involves treating the cloud as a plane of charge rather than a point charge. The initial calculation used the wrong formula for potential, which is applicable only to point charges. The appropriate formula incorporates the area of the cloud's base and its height above the ground. Using the correct parameters, the potential is calculated to be 20,000 volts. This method provides a more accurate representation of the cloud's electric potential.
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Hello! here is one question which I still donno how to solve:

A thunder cloud with a large flat square base measuring 3000m x 3000m passes over an area on level ground. Assuming the cloud carries a total charge of 40C which is spread evenly over its base and is at a height of 0.5 km above the ground, estimate the potential of the cloud relative to the ground.

My solution: by V = 1/(4*pi*epsilon) Q/r^2
Potential of the cloud relative to the ground = (9x10^9) 40/ 0.5x10^3 = 7.2 x10^8 V

It is wrong...please help me anyway. Thanks in advance. :smile:
 
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Clari said:
My solution: by V = 1/(4*pi*epsilon) Q/r^2
That equation is for the electric field (field, not potential) of a point charge. Treat this as a plane of charge. What's the field from a plane of charge? (Don't neglect the induced charge on the earth.)

Once you know the field, you can calculate the potential difference.
 


Hi there! Your solution is on the right track, but there is one small error in your calculation. The formula you used, V = 1/(4*pi*epsilon) Q/r^2, is for the potential due to a point charge. In this case, the charge is spread evenly over the base of the cloud, so we need to use a different formula.

The correct formula to use is V = (1/4*pi*epsilon) * (Q/A) * h, where A is the area of the cloud's base and h is the height of the cloud. Plugging in the values, we get:

V = (9x10^9) * (40/9x10^6) * 0.5x10^3 = 20 x 10^3 V = 2x10^4 V

So the potential of the cloud relative to the ground is 2x10^4 V. I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.
 
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