Estimating the FOV of a thin sliced plano-convex cylindrical lens

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The discussion revolves around estimating the field of view (FOV) of a thin sliced plano-convex cylindrical lens, specifically a 1/4" slice from a 26x13mm lens with a 12.5mm focal length. Participants explore the implications of using this lens for machine vision and light collection, particularly in a near 1D viewing context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the difficulty in finding information on the FOV of a plano-convex cylindrical lens and seeks formulas or diagrams to assist in this estimation.
  • Another participant suggests that a lens typically has a large FOV unless restricted by a stop, and proposes raytracing to determine the maximum angle of incoming rays.
  • A participant clarifies that they are using the lens for machine vision with a linear sensor, rather than for visual observation.
  • There is a discussion about the lack of specifications for cylindrical lenses regarding viewing angles, with one participant speculating that this may be due to their common applications in line generation.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the concept of placing a "stop" and performing raytraces, indicating a lack of familiarity with these techniques.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing levels of understanding regarding the FOV of cylindrical lenses and the methods to calculate it, with no consensus reached on the specifics of raytracing or the implications of using stops.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for further experimentation with different lenses, indicating that their understanding may evolve with practical application. There is also a lack of established formulas or clear definitions for the FOV of cylindrical lenses in the context discussed.

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I've scoured the internet, books I have available, and forums, but I can't seem to find any information regarding the field of view of a plano-convex cylindrical lens.

The lens in question would be a 1/4" slice from something like a 26x13mm lens. The dimensions would then become 6.35x13mm, with a 12.5mm focal length. The idea is to use this thin lens to essentially view in near 1D or a single plane. The thin section should only gather light in a slim viewing angle, while the much wider curved portion of the lens has a wider viewing angle.

Does anyone know of any formulas, diagrams, or information that would help me figure out what field of view this type of lens would have?

Thanks.
 
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A lens by itself will usually have a very large FOV, as there is nothing restricting the maximum angle of the incoming rays except perhaps internal reflections from the lens itself. If you want to restrict the FOV, you need to introduce a stop into your system. To find the FOV, place your stop either before or after the lens and do a raytrace to find the maximum angle of the rays that will pass through. Have you done any raytraces like this before?

heapsian said:
The idea is to use this thin lens to essentially view in near 1D or a single plane.

I'm not quite sure what this means. Are you attempting to use this lens visually?
 
Hello and thanks for your reponse. To answer your last question first, no, I'm using this lens to collect light for machine vision and processing in combination with a linear sensor.

I suppose I understand what you are inferring about the FOV of a lens and the incident rays, perhaps I should have rephrased my initial description. For example, a normal lens is listed something like S-mount, wide angle, 130°, 2.5mm focal length, for a 1/3" sensor. But when looking at specs for cylindrical lenses, there's nothing describing the viewing angle. Is this because the potential applications for a cylindrical lens is usually for line generation instead?

I'm unfamiliar with what you mean by placing a "stop" to do a raytrace. I've never done that. There are a few different lenses on their way to me in the mail that I plan to experiment with.
 
heapsian said:
I suppose I understand what you are inferring about the FOV of a lens and the incident rays, perhaps I should have rephrased my initial description. For example, a normal lens is listed something like S-mount, wide angle, 130°, 2.5mm focal length, for a 1/3" sensor. But when looking at specs for cylindrical lenses, there's nothing describing the viewing angle. Is this because the potential applications for a cylindrical lens is usually for line generation instead?

Well, I'm not familiar with cylindrical lenses, but for the "normal" lens you listed the FOV is determined by the size and placement of the sensor. Rays just outside that FOV still make it through the lens, they just don't fall onto the sensor array.

Your cylindrical lenses still follow the same pattern, they will just have two different FOV values, one for each dimension. You can do a raytrace to determine the maximum angle of the rays that will reach your sensor in each dimension if you know how.

heapsian said:
I'm unfamiliar with what you mean by placing a "stop" to do a raytrace. I've never done that. There are a few different lenses on their way to me in the mail that I plan to experiment with.

Based on what you said in your original post, I'm assuming you've never done raytraces on paper before? And I don't mean just drawing a diagram, but actually performing the calculations to determine where a ray will go after passing through each surface of a lens.
 

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