?Evaluating Double Integral Using Polar Coords

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral using polar coordinates. The integral in question is x³ + xy², with specified limits forming a half-circle region in the Cartesian plane.

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  • Participants explore the conversion from Cartesian to polar coordinates, questioning algebraic manipulations and the application of the Jacobian. There are discussions about the limits of integration and the correct interpretation of the region of integration.

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Several participants have provided guidance on the correct setup for the integral, including the need to adjust limits and incorporate the Jacobian. There is an ongoing examination of the calculations and assumptions made by the original poster, with some participants confirming corrections and clarifications.

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Participants note potential errors in the original poster's limits for theta and the importance of accurately representing the region of integration. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the setup of the problem without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



Use polar coords to evaluate the double integral x3 + xy2dydx from y = -(9-x2)1/2 to (9-x2)1/2, and x = 0 to 3

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So the region is a half circle of radius 3, centered @ the origin, with only the possitive x side, (right side of circle)

x = rcosQ, y = rsinQ

the integral is r3cos3Q + r3cosQsinQ drdQ

after integration with respect to r i get and pluging in the limits

84/4 cos^3 Q + 81/4 cosQsinQ dQ

i looked up the integrals of cos^3Q in the back of my book and it is quite complex. Have i made any mistakes thus far, and is there an easier way to evaluate it
 
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x³ + xy² = r² cosθ. Check your algebra.
 
Also if you go from Cartesian to polar coordinates [itex]dxdy \Rightarrow r dr d\theta[/itex].
While not relevant to this problem [itex]\cos^3x[/itex] is easily integrated by writing it as [itex]\cos x (1-\sin^2x)[/itex] and substituting [itex]u=\sin x[/itex].
 
i think i messed up somehwere

[tex]\int r^3cosQdrdQ[/tex] = .25r^4cosQ from 0 to 3
=[tex]\int81/4 cosQ dQ[/tex] from 0 to pi = 81/4 sinQ from 0 to pi
sin(0) = 0, sin (pi) = 0
i got an answer of 0
 
Are you sure θ goes from 0 to π?
 


You forgot that when you transform from Cartesian to polar coordinates you have to add the Jacobian r ([itex]dx dy \Rightarrow r dr d\theta[/itex]). Secondly your limits for [itex]\theta[/itex] are off. You are integrating over the upper semi circle, but that is not the right region to integrate over. Draw the circle and add the Cartesian limits, over what section should you be integrating?
 


Q should go from [tex]-\frac{\pi}{2}[/tex] to [tex]\frac{\pi}{2}[/tex].
 


Cyosis said:
You forgot that when you transform from Cartesian to polar coordinates you have to add the Jacobian r ([itex]dx dy \Rightarrow r dr d\theta[/itex]). Secondly your limits for [itex]\theta[/itex] are off. You are integrating over the upper semi circle, but that is not the right region to integrate over. Draw the circle and add the Cartesian limits, over what section should you be integrating?
Actually, he did include the "r" but you are correct that his limits of integration on [itex]\theta[/itex] are wrong.
 


You're right I completely missed the r.
 
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uhhh huh, ok i didnt realize that mattered, i figured as long as it was 180 degrees it would be the same

but i think i did mess up the r

x(x2 + y2) = rcosQ* r2 = r3cosQ


then i add the jacobian r and my integral is for r4cosQdrdQ

the only thing that changes is the 81/4 becomes 243/5

so the final answer is

243/5 + 243/5 = 486/5
 
  • #11
That's correct.
 

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