Evaluating Limit Using L'Hospitals Rule $\tiny{205.q4.1}$

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a limit using L'Hôpital's Rule, specifically the limit as \( x \) approaches 1 for the expression \( \frac{11x + 11\sec(\pi x)}{4x - 4x^2} \). Participants explore different approaches to applying L'Hôpital's Rule and simplifying the limit expression.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an initial evaluation of the limit using L'Hôpital's Rule, arriving at an indeterminate form of \( \frac{0}{0} \) and suggesting a result of \( -\frac{11}{4} \).
  • Another participant agrees with the initial evaluation and provides an alternative method for applying L'Hôpital's Rule, leading to the same result of \( -\frac{11}{4} \).
  • A third participant reiterates the alternative method, noting a formatting issue in the initial post that caused some confusion.
  • A fourth participant expresses appreciation for the simplified version of the limit evaluation presented in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the application of L'Hôpital's Rule and arrive at the same limit result, though there are variations in the methods presented. No significant disagreements are noted, but there is acknowledgment of potential confusion in the presentation of the problem.

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Some participants highlight formatting issues that may affect clarity, and there is a reliance on the assumption that L'Hôpital's Rule is applicable to the limit in question.

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$\tiny{205.q4.1}\\$
$\textsf{Evaluate the limit using L'Hospitals Rule }$
\begin{align}
\displaystyle
L_{q4}&=\lim_{{x}\to{1}} \frac{11x+11\sec(\pi x)}{4x-4{x}^{2}}
&L'H=\frac{f'}{g'}&= \frac{11+11\pi\sec(\pi x)\tan(\pi x)}{4-8x}
\\
&=\frac{11(1)+11\sec(\pi (1))}{4(1)+4(1)^2}
&&=\frac{11+11\pi\sec(\pi )\tan(\pi)}{4-8}
\\
&=\frac{11-11}{4-4}
&&=\frac{11+0}{-4}
\\
&=\frac{0}{0}
&&=-\frac{11}{4}
\end{align}
$\textsf{think this is ok, but sugestions??}$
 
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What you did is fine, you could also write:

$$L=\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{11x+11\sec(\pi x)}{4x-4x^2}\right)=\frac{11}{4}\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{1}{x}\cdot\frac{x+\sec(\pi x}{1-x}\right)=\frac{11}{4}\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)\cdot\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{x+\sec(\pi x)}{1-x}\right)=\frac{11}{4}\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{x+\sec(\pi x)}{1-x}\right)$$

Now apply L'Hôpital's Rule:

$$L=\frac{11}{4}\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{1+\pi\sec(\pi x)\tan(\pi x)}{-1}\right)=-\frac{11}{4}\left(\frac{1+0}{1}\right)=-\frac{11}{4}$$
 
MarkFL said:
What you did is fine, you could also write:

$$L=\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{11x+11\sec(\pi x)}{4x-4x^2}\right)=\frac{11}{4}\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{1}{x}\cdot\frac{x+\sec(\pi x}{1-x}\right)=\frac{11}{4}\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)\cdot\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{x+\sec(\pi x)}{1-x}\right)=\frac{11}{4}\lim_{x\to1}\left(\frac{x+\sec(\pi x)}{1-x}\right)$$
That first line screwed me up a bit! (Sweating) I didn't realize it went over to the next line.

-Dan
 
always love the simlified version☕
 

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