Evidence of Orbiting Black Holes?

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The discussion revolves around the existence of orbiting black holes, specifically focusing on stellar black holes orbiting supermassive black holes and the dynamics of black hole pairs orbiting each other. It explores theoretical implications and observational evidence related to these scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about evidence for stellar black holes orbiting supermassive black holes in galaxy centers.
  • Others propose that if two black holes come close enough for their event horizons to touch, they would merge into a larger black hole, potentially emitting gravitational waves.
  • Several participants mention strong candidates for galaxies with two supermassive black holes orbiting each other, suggesting they will eventually merge and emit gravitational waves.
  • One participant raises questions about the nature of the area near the center of mass of two orbiting black holes, speculating on tidal forces and the turbulence of spacetime in that region.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the potential for black holes to merge and emit gravitational waves, but the discussion includes various speculative aspects regarding the nature of the spacetime around orbiting black holes and the specifics of their interactions, indicating unresolved questions and differing viewpoints.

Contextual Notes

Participants express assumptions about the conditions under which black holes might interact, such as the spacing between them and the effects of their mass on tidal forces. There are unresolved questions about the observational evidence for these scenarios and the exact nature of the spacetime dynamics involved.

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Do we have any evidence that either:

1. There exist stellar black holes which orbit supermassive black holes in the centers of galaxies, or

2. There exist black hole pairs which orbit each other, around their shared center of mass?And if the second scenario were to exist, what would happen if/when their event horizons were to intersect?
 
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I can only address your last question. If two black holes get close to each other (and certainly having their event horizons touch would be very close) they will merge into one larger black hole. It is believe that this process will send out gravity waves but we have not yet been able to detect gravity waves.
 
There are several strong candidates for galaxies which have two supermassive black holes orbiting each other at their center. Here is one of the strongest candidates. Eventually they will merge into a single black hole and emit a burst of gravitational waves, as phinds said.
 
phyzguy said:
There are several strong candidates for galaxies which have two supermassive black holes orbiting each other at their center. Here is one of the strongest candidates. Eventually they will merge into a single black hole and emit a burst of gravitational waves, as phinds said.

Very cool. Thanks.


We can assume that the spacing between the black holes is greater than the radius of the two event horizons. What would the area near the center of gravity be like? I assume relatively mild tidal forces, given that they are large black holes. Is the space time near the center of mass "turbulent"? if so, what sorts of effects might one observe?
 

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