Exact Values of Trig Functions at 1/3pi and 1/6pi with Symmetry - Homework Help

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The discussion focuses on finding the exact values of trigonometric functions at specific angles using symmetry and identities. Participants explore the relationships between sine, cosine, and tangent functions, particularly at angles of 1/3π and 1/6π, and how to apply these to compute values like sin(-1/6π), cos(5/3π), and tan(4/3π). Key points include the use of identities such as sin(x + π/2) = cos(x) and the understanding of function symmetry on the unit circle. The conversation emphasizes the importance of graphing and recognizing patterns in trigonometric functions to derive these values accurately. Overall, the thread illustrates the process of applying trigonometric identities and symmetry to solve problems effectively.
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Homework Statement


(In radians I assume) Using the exact values of sin, cos, tan of 1/3 pi and 1/6 pi, and the symmetry of the graphs of sin, cos and tan, find the exact values of sin(-1/6pi), cos (5/3pi) and tan(4/3pi).


Homework Equations


cos(x)=sin(x+pi/2)
sin(x) = sin(x+2pi)
sin^2(x)+cos^2(x)=1


The Attempt at a Solution



I have a little difficulty understanding what is required here. I have a list of trig functions but these don't seem to be here. I imagine the answer is some square root with a coefficient, but I'd like to understand it better. Can someone point me in the right direction without just giving me the answer? Thanks
 
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Try the numbers as combination of π, for example to find tan(5π/4)=tan(π+π/4). Like that.
 
The idea is to look at the graphs of functions to figure out properties that would be useful in solving the problems. For example, if you graph \sin x, you'll see that it's an odd function; in other words, it has the property \sin(x) = -\sin(-x). If x=-\pi/6, you can say \sin(-\pi/6) = -\sin[-(-\pi/6)] = -\sin(\pi/6).
 
Thanks guys. I guess I'm being slow, but I've had a few tries now and can't equate, e.g. sin(-pi/6) with either sin, cos, or tan of 1/3 or 1/6 pi.
For example:

sin(-pi/6) = -sin(pi/6)
fine.
cos(pi/6 + pi/2) = -sin(pi/6)
so
cos(4/6 pi) = sin(-pi/6)

but what I really want to equate the LHS to is
-cos(1/3 pi).
I know I'm being really slow, but I can't seem to get there.
 
The graph does help a lot.
I can see that sin(-1/6 pi) is equal to cos exactly half pi earlier in the graph. So is there an identity that states sin(x - pi/2)=cos(x)?
If so, I've cracked it.
 
Sorta but not quite.

Notice if you put x = 0, you'd get
sin (-pi/2) = cos 0 = 1 which is wrong. The right identity.

It'd be
<br /> \sin (\frac{\pi}{2} - x ) = \cos x<br />
 
tomwilliam said:
The graph does help a lot.
I can see that sin(-1/6 pi) is equal to cos exactly half pi earlier in the graph. So is there an identity that states sin(x - pi/2)=cos(x)?
If so, I've cracked it.

should be sin(x-π/2)= -cos(x)
 
Actually, I think Tom discovered the identity

sin(x+\frac{\pi}{2}) = cos x

which just says that the graph of cosine is the sine shifted by \pi/2. It's easy to screw up the sign of the phase shift because, to me, it seems like it should be the opposite sign intuitively. I always have to double-check to make sure I get it right.
 
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tomwilliam said:
Thanks guys. I guess I'm being slow, but I've had a few tries now and can't equate, e.g. sin(-pi/6) with either sin, cos, or tan of 1/3 or 1/6 pi.
You probably can't because that's actually kind of hard to do. :)

The problem wants you to figure out what \cos(5\pi/3) equals in terms of \cos(\pi/6) or \cos(\pi/3). Same with \tan(4\pi/3) and \tan(\pi/6) or \tan(\pi/3).
 
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Thanks all.
Well I think I'm getting there.
I think for the first one I can just say

sin(pi/6)=0.5
sin (-x) = -sin(x), therefore
sin(-pi/6)=-sin(pi/6)=-0.5

Simple.

For the second one, I'm guessing I have to use:
cos(pi/3)=0.5
and somehow show that it is equal to:
cos(5pi/3).

I can see the graph very clearly, and understand why this is the case. But I'm not sure how I can show it. I know that as the angle goes from 0 to pi, the cosine of the angle goes from 1 to -1, and then as the angle goes from pi to 2pi, the cosine goes back round from -1 to 1. So of course, the cosine at 1/3 of the way round to pi will be the same as it is at 2pi - 1/3pi. But how to show that mathematically?

Thanks again, and sorry for being slow-witted.
 
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5π/3 = 2π- π/3

Use this.
 
  • #13
tomwilliam said:
For the second one, I'm guessing I have to use:
cos(pi/3)=0.5
and somehow show that it is equal to:
cos(5pi/3).

I can see the graph very clearly, and understand why this is the case. But I'm not sure how I can show it. I know that as the angle goes from 0 to pi, the cosine of the angle goes from 1 to -1, and then as the angle goes from pi to 2pi, the cosine goes back round from -1 to 1. So of course, the cosine at 1/3 of the way round to pi will be the same as it is at 2pi - 1/3pi. But how to show that mathematically?

Thanks again, and sorry for being slow-witted.
So essentially what you've figured out is that \cos x = \cos(2\pi - x). This another one of the many trig identities. You can just say

\cos 5\pi/3 = \cos(2\pi-\pi/3) = \cos \pi/3 = ...
 
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