I Exactly why are these two expressions similar?

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The discussion centers on the mathematical relationship between angular momentum and the Coriolis force. The time derivative of angular momentum includes terms that appear similar to the Coriolis force, prompting a query about their connection. Participants note that both concepts relate to rotation, suggesting a deeper link. The conversation emphasizes the importance of expressing angular momentum as vectors to clarify the similarities, particularly regarding cross products. Ultimately, the discussion aims to explore whether the observed similarities are coincidental or indicative of a fundamental relationship.
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So if angular momentum

<br /> <br /> L = m r^2 \dot {\theta}<br /> <br />

and we take the first time derivative

<br /> <br /> \frac {d}{dt} L = 2mr \dot {r} \dot {\theta} + m r^2 \ddot {\theta}<br /> <br />

the first term looks similar to the Coriolis force 2m( \bf {v} x \bf { \dot {\theta} } )
but I can't figure out why. Of course they both have to do with rotation so I'm guessing that it's not a coincidence, but I can't quite arrive at the exact mathematical connection between the two expressions.

Would anyone like to help me out?
 
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Doesn't look similar to me. Cross product vs. no cross product, and then you have the additional radius in one equation.
 
Yes, I should have expressed angular momentum and its time derivative as vectors as well, then we'd have cross products on both sides.

For the moment my hunch reasoning goes like this:

1.) In a rotating frame of reference, a "floating by" object (one not acted on by external forces) is subject to two fictious forces — centrifugal and Coriolis.

2.) A force causes a change in (linear) momentum.

3.) Angular momentum is a function of linear momentum, therefore a change in one is likely to effect a change in the other.

4.) The time derivative of angular momentum expresses a change in angular momentum.

So there's a connection. Hopefully this is enough to lead me through the mathematics and see if the similarity of the two terms mentioned in the OP is a coincidence or not.
 
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