Exactly why are these two expressions similar?

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The discussion centers on the mathematical relationship between angular momentum and the Coriolis force. The expression for angular momentum, L = m r² θ̇, and its time derivative, d/dt L = 2mr θ̇̇ + m r² θ̈, reveal similarities to the Coriolis force, represented as 2m( v × θ̇ ). The participants explore the connection between these two expressions, emphasizing the role of fictitious forces in a rotating frame of reference. The conclusion suggests that understanding the relationship between angular momentum and linear momentum is crucial for further mathematical exploration.

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So if angular momentum

<br /> <br /> L = m r^2 \dot {\theta}<br /> <br />

and we take the first time derivative

<br /> <br /> \frac {d}{dt} L = 2mr \dot {r} \dot {\theta} + m r^2 \ddot {\theta}<br /> <br />

the first term looks similar to the Coriolis force 2m( \bf {v} x \bf { \dot {\theta} } )
but I can't figure out why. Of course they both have to do with rotation so I'm guessing that it's not a coincidence, but I can't quite arrive at the exact mathematical connection between the two expressions.

Would anyone like to help me out?
 
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Doesn't look similar to me. Cross product vs. no cross product, and then you have the additional radius in one equation.
 
Yes, I should have expressed angular momentum and its time derivative as vectors as well, then we'd have cross products on both sides.

For the moment my hunch reasoning goes like this:

1.) In a rotating frame of reference, a "floating by" object (one not acted on by external forces) is subject to two fictious forces — centrifugal and Coriolis.

2.) A force causes a change in (linear) momentum.

3.) Angular momentum is a function of linear momentum, therefore a change in one is likely to effect a change in the other.

4.) The time derivative of angular momentum expresses a change in angular momentum.

So there's a connection. Hopefully this is enough to lead me through the mathematics and see if the similarity of the two terms mentioned in the OP is a coincidence or not.
 

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