Exhibit a bijection between N and the set of all odd integers greater than 13

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The problem involves establishing a bijection between the set of natural numbers, N, and the set of all odd integers greater than 13. Participants are discussing the requirements for proving both injectivity and surjectivity in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • One participant attempts to define a function f(x) = 2x + 13 and questions the correct approach for demonstrating surjectivity. Others suggest clarifying the mapping between the domain and codomain, particularly focusing on the nature of y in relation to the defined function.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing feedback on each other's attempts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definition of the function and the need to ensure that the mapping covers all elements in the codomain. There is no explicit consensus yet, as different interpretations of the proof requirements are being explored.

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There is a mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the elements of the codomain and the necessity of demonstrating that each element in the codomain corresponds to an element in the domain. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the appropriate method for proving the bijection.

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Exhibit a bijection between N and the set of all odd integers greater than 13

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I didn't have a template for the problem solving. Please check if I did it in the right way? (The way and order a professor will like to see.)
 

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Almost...your injection proof is fine. But, when proving a mapping is surjective, we need to show that the domain maps all of the range, i.e., show that for each y, there's an x such that f(x) = y.

You wrote "for y E N," but that's not true. y E B = set of all odd integers greater than 13, not all natural numbers.

So, basically, what you have to do in the surjective proof here is show that if y is an odd integers greater than 13, then x must be a natural number and thus exist in our domain.
 
Should I do this in math induction?
 
hmm, I am not sure if I'm right. but when you define a function f(x)=2x+13 don't say for \ all \ x \in N yet, because that is what you suppose to show.

so just define this function f(x)=2x+13

like Raskolnikov suggested. any y in the codomain has the form of 2q+13, where q are natural number

so, like you did, we solve for y=2x+13 \Rightarrow 2q+13=2x+13, so you want to show that x is natural number ie: x is the set of the domain
 

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