Expected energy and viability of a linear combination of wave functions

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The discussion revolves around the viability of a wave function eigenfunction decomposition and the calculation of its expected energy. The wave function is expressed as a linear combination of two eigenfunctions, and participants are exploring the implications of this combination in the context of quantum mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the conditions for the viability of the wave function, particularly focusing on the sum of the constants squared equating to one. There are questions about the relationship between energy and frequency, as well as how to calculate expected energy given the linear combination of states.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the assumptions about probabilities associated with the energy eigenvalues and the proper application of equations related to expected energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between energy and frequency, but no consensus has been reached on the expected energy calculation.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of quantum mechanics, particularly in the context of wave functions and their properties. There are references to specific equations and concepts, such as Planck's equation and the orthogonality of eigenfunctions, which are central to the discussion but may not be fully understood by all participants.

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Homework Statement



Show that the following wave function eigenfunction decomposition is viable and find it's expected energy.

ψ(x, t) = [1/(1+i)]ψ1(x)e^(-iw1t) - (1/√2)ψ2(x)e^(-iw2t)

Homework Equations


∫ψ(x)*ψ(x)dx = 1 probability

∫ψm(x)*ψn(x)dx = 0 orthogonality

∫ψm(x)*ψn(x)dx = δmn

Ʃ|C_{n}|^{2} = 1

<H> = Ʃ|C_{n}|^{2}*E_{n}

The Attempt at a Solution



From my understanding so far, δmn is value given when you combine the condition for both probability and orthogonality. However I don't think I fully understand why you can just then said that the sum of the constants squared of the wave functions is equal to 1. Using the equation I can find that the first part of wave function is 1/2 and the second part is 1/2 so the sum of that is 1 so the wave function is viable. However I'm not sure what to do with the expected energy. I think that ω = En/h but I am unsure as to how the linear combination effects the expression of expected energy because shouldn't <H> =En since the sum of the constants is just 1?

Thanks for everyone that helps.
 
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I don't think I fully understand why you can just then said that the sum of the constants squared of the wave functions is equal to 1.
Well - if you made a measurement of the eigenvalue, what is the probability of finding the particle in one of the eigenstates?
I'm not sure what to do with the expected energy
How do you find the expectation value of a discrete random variable in normal statistics?
<H> =En since the sum of the constants is just 1?
But each value of the energy does not appear with equal probability does it?
 
Alright, so the first part just requires some understanding of linear algebra. We are still dealing with time independent wave functions but I think we will be learning that notation very soon.

But each value of the energy does not appear with equal probability does it?

Well, I could see showing the different probability for each value of energy but in this case the expected energy would be <H> = (1/2)E1 + (1/2)E2 where En = ω_{n}h
 
Well, I could see showing the different probability for each value of energy but in this case the expected energy would be <H> = (1/2)E1 + (1/2)E2 where En = ωn
That last equation doesn't work - what is the relationship between frequency and energy?

Alright, so the first part just requires some understanding of linear algebra. We are still dealing with time independent wave functions but I think we will be learning that notation very soon.
... no idea what you are talking about.
 
Wouldn't the relationship just be based off Planck's equation for quantized energy? That would show that En = hv where "h" is Planck's constant and "v" is the frequency. As far as I can see, the last equation is in that form unless I'm not understanding it correctly.
 
xicor said:
Wouldn't the relationship just be based off Planck's equation for quantized energy? That would show that En = hv where "h" is Planck's constant and "v" is the frequency. As far as I can see, the last equation is in that form unless I'm not understanding it correctly.
##\omega = 2\pi\nu## ... for some reason I left the h off the end when I quoted you...

I'm sorry, the way you wrote
... but in this case the expected energy would be...
I inferred that you had some issue with the resulting relation.
I was trying to guess what it was instead of just asking. Now I'm asking :)
 
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That was just because I wasn't sure about using the Cn probabilities before where both E1 and E2 have an equivalent probability. I think the professor was just using ω as a substitute for En/h because he never brought up the term of 2*pi. The ω variable is taking the place of the wave function ψn(x,t) = Cn*ψn(x)e^{-iEnt/h}. I was just uncertain if I was correctly using the formula for the expected energy <H>.
 
Oh OK - well that was exactly how to use them.
##\langle H \rangle = c_1^\star c_1 E_1 + c_2^\star c_2 E_2##

I think the professor was just using ω as a substitute for En/h
But in the wave-function he(?) writes ##e^{-i\omega_n t}## as the time-dependency ... in that relation, ##\omega_n = E_n/\hbar##
If he is using ##\omega=E_n/h## then that would be out by a factor of ##2\pi##.

If he uses units of ##\hbar=1## then you can write ##\omega_n = E_n##.
 

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