Explaining sinh and cosh graphically

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The discussion revolves around understanding the graphical representation of hyperbolic functions, specifically sinh and cosh, in relation to the hyperbola. The original poster presents a problem involving the values of tanh, sinh, and cosh, and expresses a desire for a graphical explanation using hyperbolas.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationship between hyperbolic functions and their graphical representation on a hyperbola. Some suggest using the unit hyperbola and its parametrization, while others question the clarity of the graphical explanation and seek further elaboration on the relationship between the points and the hyperbola.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the graphical interpretation of hyperbolic functions. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the algebraic and graphical approaches, and some participants are seeking clarification on specific points raised in the discussion.

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There is a mention of the need to draw the hyperbola properly and the potential confusion regarding the intersection of lines and points on the hyperbola. Participants are navigating through the definitions and relationships without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


tanh x is 12/13 . Then cosh x is 12/5 and sinh is 13/5. This can be found algebraically by finding x.

Homework Equations


tanh x= sinh x/cosh x

The Attempt at a Solution


The answer can be found algebraically by finding x. tanh x= sinh x /cosh x.

tanh(x) =
sinh(x) / cosh(x) =
((1/2) * (e^(x) - e^(-x))) / ((1/2) * (e^(x) + e^(-x))) =>
(e^(x) - e^(-x)) / (e^(x) + e^(-x))

12 / 13 = (e^(x) - e^(-x)) / (e^(x) + e^(-x))
12 * (e^(x) + e^(-x)) = 13 * (e^(x) - e^(-x))
12 * e^(x) + 12 * e^(-x) = 13 * e^(x) - 13 * e^(-x))
25 * e^(-x) = e^(x)
25 = e^(2x)
ln(25) = 2x
2 * ln(5) = 2x
x = ln(5)

sinh(x) =
(1/2) * (e^(x) - e^(-x)) =>
(1/2) * (5 - (1/5)) =>
(1/2) * (24/5) =>
12/5

cosh(x) =
(1/2) * (e^(x) + e^(-x)) =
(1/2) * (26/5) =>
13/5

But I believe there must be a graphical explanation using hyperbola too, just as there are algebraic and graphic explanations for trigonometry using circles and triangle.

Can someone explain it to me graphically using hyperbola?
 
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It is just the same as the circle, but using the unit hyperbola instead of the unit circle. Also, ##x## is not a regular angle, but a hyperbolic angle. The unit hyperbola can be parametrised by a hyperbolic angle ##\theta## as
$$
x = \cosh(\theta), \quad y = \sinh(\theta),
$$
since this implies that ##x^2 - y^2 = 1##. Draw a line through the origin and ##x = 13, y = 12##. Where it crosses the hyperbola, the ##x##-value is ##\cosh(\theta)## and the ##y##-value is ##\sinh(\theta)##. Of course, to do this you will need to draw the hyperbola properly first.

However, your problem is more easily solved using the hyperbolic identity ##\cosh^2(\theta) - \sinh^2(\theta) = 1## to relate ##\cosh(\theta)## and ##\sinh(\theta)## to ##\tanh(\theta)##. You do not need to go via the definitions in terms of exponential functions.
 
Orodruin said:
It is just the same as the circle, but using the unit hyperbola instead of the unit circle. Also, ##x## is not a regular angle, but a hyperbolic angle. The unit hyperbola can be parametrised by a hyperbolic angle ##\theta## as
$$
x = \cosh(\theta), \quad y = \sinh(\theta),
$$
since this implies that ##x^2 - y^2 = 1##. Draw a line through the origin and ##x = 13, y = 12##. Where it crosses the hyperbola, the ##x##-value is ##\cosh(\theta)## and the ##y##-value is ##\sinh(\theta)##. Of course, to do this you will need to draw the hyperbola properly first.

However, your problem is more easily solved using the hyperbolic identity ##\cosh^2(\theta) - \sinh^2(\theta) = 1## to relate ##\cosh(\theta)## and ##\sinh(\theta)## to ##\tanh(\theta)##. You do not need to go via the definitions in terms of exponential functions.
x=12 and y=13 does not cross the origin but just a straight line parallel to x and y-axis at x=12 and y=13 respectively. I guess you may have meant it with respect to θ but could you elaborate on it?
 
Seung Tai Kang said:
x=12 and y=13 does not cross the origin but just a straight line parallel to x and y-axis at x=12 and y=13 respectively. I guess you may have meant it with respect to θ but could you elaborate on it?
You have misread the post. There is only one line. It passes through the origin and the point ##(x,y) = (12,13)##. Two points are sufficient to uniquely identify a line.
 

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