Explanation for term in formula, QFT

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The discussion centers on the notation used in equation 2.18 of Mandl & Shaw's Quantum Field Theory (QFT) book, specifically the term \(\delta x_i\) in the Lagrangian summation. Participants clarify that \(\delta x_i\) represents infinitesimal spacings between components in a continuum limit, which is essential for deriving the field Lagrangian from a system of finite oscillators. This notation indicates a summation over distinct cells, with the index \(i\) denoting individual components, and serves as a functional derivative in the context of Lagrangian mechanics.

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Hi

I've got a question about a term in a formula I've found in Mandl&Shaw's QFT book

It's about equation 2.18 on page 31

[tex]L(t) = {\sum_i \delta \bf{x}_i {\cal L}_i \ ...[/tex]

Why is there a delta x_i when summing over all lagrangians for getting the lagrange-function for the whole system?
And what operator is that delta in this particular equation?
The difference between two different points? (wouldn't that rather be [tex]\Delta \bf{x}[/tex] ?)
[tex]\delta[/tex] serves only as functional derivative AFAIK
 
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I don't have Mandl & Shaw, this looks like a derivation of a field Lagrangian from a system of finite oscillators? The continuum limit [tex]\delta x_i \rightarrow 0[/tex] means you're spacing the components closer and closer together, which means their masses (and thus Lagrangians) must be scaled down as [tex]\delta x_i[/tex] if the mass density is to remain unchanged. There's a nice discussion in the final chapter of Goldstein, I assume a QFT book would not go into much detail about this.

As for the notation, it looks like he's summing over infinitesimals [tex]\delta x_i[/tex], which is a physicist's way of doing calculus. :rolleyes: It essentially means [tex]\int dx \, {\cal L} (x)[/tex].
 
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Rach3 said:
I don't have Mandl & Shaw, this looks like a derivation of a field Lagrangian from a system of finite oscillators? The continuum limit [tex]\delta x_i \rightarrow 0[/tex] means you're spacing the components closer and closer together, which means their masses (and thus Lagrangians) must be scaled down as [tex]\delta x_i[/tex] if the mass density is to remain unchanged. There's a nice discussion in the final chapter of Goldstein, I assume a QFT book would not go into much detail about this.

yep, exactly, that's what is described in the book


As for the notation, it looks like he's summing over infinitesimals [tex]\delta x_i[/tex], which is a physicist's way of doing calculus. :rolleyes: It essentially means [tex]\int dx \, {\cal L} (x)[/tex].

oh, IC now the reason of my wrong understanding. He uses [tex]\delta x_i[/tex] because he wants to show explicitly that he's talking about separate cells (with the index i as one of the arguments of the field operator). On the page before that he declares explicitly his -in my opinion, awkward - notation.

Thanks ;)
 

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