Explicitly Deriving Spinor Representations from Lorentz Group

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The discussion revolves around the explicit derivation of spinor representations from the Lorentz group, particularly focusing on the relationship between 2x2 unimodular matrices and the restricted Lorentz group. Participants explore the mathematical foundations and implications of these representations within the context of relativistic field theory.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the author's abstract explanation of how to derive 2x2 unimodular matrices as representations of the restricted Lorentz group.
  • Another participant clarifies that the 2x2 unimodular matrices represent the universal cover of the restricted Lorentz group, noting that the group is not simply connected.
  • A participant discusses the mapping of four-vectors to 2x2 complex matrices and mentions the determinant as a Lorentz invariant distance, suggesting that transformations preserving this length are Lorentz transformations.
  • There is a query about the transition from the matrix representation to the concept of spinors, indicating a gap in understanding what is needed to arrive at spinors.
  • A suggestion is made to refer to a specific section of an academic paper for further clarification on the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the explicit derivation of spinors from the Lorentz group, and multiple viewpoints regarding the representation and understanding of spinors remain present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of the relationship between four-vectors, unimodular matrices, and spinors, with participants acknowledging the need for clearer mathematical exposition and further resources.

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I'm currently reading a book on relativistic field theory and I'm trying to understand spinors.
After the author introduces the four parts of the Lorentz group he talks about spinors and group representations:

"...With this concept we see that the 2x2 unimodular matrices A discussed in the previous section form a two-dimensional representation of the restricted Lorentz group L_+ (and arrow up)"

The derivation is not clear to me and the author is very abstract in his explanations. But I want to know how to explicitly derive this unimodular matrices. I know a little bit about group theory, for example how to represent the group Z3 as matrices with this formula [D(g)]_{ij}=<i|D(g)|j> and it's simple. I know there is a difference because the Lorentz group is a continuous group but maybe there is also such a simple way to derive the spinor representation. I want to know how to explicitly derive spinors from the Lorentz group.

I know that you can write that a four vector corresponds to a 2x2 matrix via:

\begin{pmatrix} x^{0}+x^{3} & x^{1}-ix^{2} \\ x^{1}+ix^{2} & x^{0}-x^{3} \end{pmatrix}
Now is this already a spinor?
 
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2x2 unimodular matrices form a repesentation of the universal cover of the restricted Lorentz, i.e, the restricted Lorentz group is not simply connected.

The space of 4-vectors is a tensor product of 2-component spinor spaces.

For a somewhat readable mathematical exposition of this, see the book "The Geometry of Minkowski Spacetime" by Gregory Naber.
 
Ok thank you. Ok another question.
You can map a four vector to a 2x2 complex matrix like this:

X= \begin{pmatrix} x^{0}+x^{3} & x^{1}-ix^{2} \\ x^{1}+ix^{2} & x^{0}-x^{3} \end{pmatrix}

while

det(X) =(x^{0})^{2}-(x^{i})^{2}

Is the Lorentz invariant distance, which means that every transformation which preserves this length is a Lorentz transformation. Now we can make such a transformation with 2x2 unimodular matrices like:

X' = AXA^{\dagger}

Alright, I get all that. But how do you come to spinors now? What is missing?
 

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