Exponential forms of cos and sin

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The discussion focuses on proving the trigonometric identity sin(x + y) = sin(x)cos(y) + cos(x)sin(y) using the exponential forms of sine and cosine from Glyn James' "Modern Engineering Mathematics." Participants clarify the correct expressions for sin(x) and sin(x+y) and emphasize the importance of the exponential property exp(x+y) = exp(x)exp(y) in the proof. There is a brief mention of the confusion between the imaginary unit 'i' used in mathematics and 'j' used in engineering contexts, particularly in electrical engineering. The conversation highlights the challenges of transitioning between these notations. Ultimately, the proof is successfully completed, demonstrating the utility of exponential forms in trigonometric identities.
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hi, my question is from Modern Engineering Mathematics by Glyn James

pg 177 # 17a

Using the exponential forms of cos(theta) and sin(theta) given in (3.11a, b), prove the following trigonometric identities:
a) sin(x + y) = sin(x)cos(y) + cos(x)sin(y)

and 3.11a is:
cos(x) = 0.5*[ e^(jx) + e^(-jx) ] where x= theta
and 3.11b is:
sin(x) = 0.5j*[ e^(jx) - e^(-jx) ] where x= theta

i've gotten to the point where i have
[ e^j(x+y) + e^j(x-y) -e^j(y-x) -e^-j(x + y) ] / 2j
 
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3.11b should be

sin(x) = 0.5*[ e^(jx) - e^(-jx) ]/j

or

sin(x) = -0.5j*[ e^(jx) - e^(-jx) ]

What you want to do here is start with the expression 3.11b of sin(x+y), then use the property of the exponential that exp(x+y)=exp(x)exp(y) and then transform the exponentials back into sin and cos form. Then the real part of that is sin(x+y) (and the imaginary part equals 0).
 
whoops i meant for the j to be on the bottom for 3.11b

its like
[1/(2j)][ e^(jx) - e^(-jx) ]
 
weee i got it thanks for the help!
 
Oh, those engineers and their jmagjnary numbers!
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Oh, those engineers and their jmagjnary numbers!

Yes that's a pain in the ..., always confusion between i and j.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Oh, those engineers and their jmagjnary numbers!

In electrical engineering, i means electric current so imaginary numbers are written as j. I remember j was first introduced in the "Elementary linear circuit analysis" class and then all engineering classes use j instead of i. Yes, when reading mathematics or physics paper, I need to switch to i mode. And, mathematicians and physicists write Fourier transform in a confusing form
 

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