External Pressure and Deformation of Cylindrical Tubes with Nylon Material

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The discussion revolves around determining the external pressure at which a cylindrical tube made of nylon will undergo deformation, given its yield strength. The context includes considerations of whether to apply collapse pressure formulas or radial stress formulas, particularly in the absence of internal pressure.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to find the external pressure at which the nylon cylinder deforms, questioning the appropriate formulas to use given that it is not a pressure vessel.
  • Some participants point out that the problem statement does not clearly indicate the presence of external pressure, suggesting a need for clarification.
  • Another participant proposes two approaches: assuming perfect axial symmetry for simple compression or considering the potential for buckling, which complicates the problem.
  • A participant raises concerns about the nature of nylon's stress-strain curve and the definition of its yield point, suggesting that nylon's properties may complicate the analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the clarity and complexity of the problem, with some agreeing on the need for further specification while others highlight the inherent challenges in analyzing the deformation of nylon under external pressure.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks specific details regarding wall thickness and the assumptions made about the material properties of nylon, which may affect the analysis.

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Hello,
This is a real simple question but I am having a hard time to answer it.
We have cylinder with outer Radius Ro, Inner Radius Ri. Internal pressure = 0.
External pressure = to be find.
Material is Nylon.

I would like to know:
External pressure Po at which the tube/cylinder will go under deformation given Yield strength.

How do i find the external pressure on a rod- Given it is not a pressure vessel?
Should i use the collapse pressure formula OR Radil stress formula assuming Internal pressure Pi to be zero?

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There is nothing in the problem statement to indicate that there is an external pressure at all. Please re-read what you wrote and add whatever is missing.
 
Dr.D said:
There is nothing in the problem statement to indicate that there is an external pressure at all. Please re-read what you wrote and add whatever is missing.
Thanks,
I re-wrote the question
 
This "simple problem" is really not simple at all, and may still be undefined. I see two options to pursue here:
1) You can assume absolutely perfect axial symmetry and consider only simple compression of the material.
2) You can also recognize that there is the potential for the cylinder wall to buckle, thus collapsing in an asymmetric form.
For the first option, get a theory of elasticity book and dig into problems in cylindrical coordinates.
For the second option, the wall thickness becomes critical, and I doubt that the problem can be solved in general (with no specification on the wall thickness).
 
What are you assuming about the nature of the stress-strain curve for nylon, and in particular, do you have a well defined yield point? Nylon is not a "nice" engineering material like say, steel, so everything is a bit iffy about this problem.
 

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