F=maF=(59)(V-0)/3Solving Ski Slope Physics Problems

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The problem involves a skier descending a slope, calculating her speed at the bottom, and analyzing her motion across a patch of snow with friction. The subject area includes concepts of energy conservation, work-energy principles, and forces acting on an object in motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation principles, questioning the setup of equations and the treatment of potential and kinetic energy. There are suggestions to use variables instead of numbers to avoid errors. Some participants point out potential typos in the calculations and emphasize the need for clarity in the equations used.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem and correct potential errors. There is a mix of feedback on the original poster's calculations and suggestions for re-evaluating the energy balance in the problem.

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Participants note the importance of correctly identifying forces acting on the skier, such as friction and air resistance, and the need to clarify terms used in the equations. There is also mention of homework constraints that may affect how the problem is presented.

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Homework Statement



A skier of mass 59.0kg starts from rest at the top of a ski slope of height 70.0m .

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The Attempt at a Solution



If frictional forces do −1.08×10^4J of work on her as she descends, how fast is she going at the bottom of the slope?

(1/2)mV^2=mgh + (1/2)mV^2 + -1.08 x10^4
0=59*9.8*70+(1/2)(59)(v^2)+-1.08x10^4
v=31.4

Now moving horizontally, the skier crosses a patch of soft snow, where the coefficient of friction is = 0.180. If the patch is of width 65.0m and the average force of air resistance on the skier is 170N , how fast is she going after crossing the patch?

(1/2)*59*31.7=59*9.8*70+(1/2)(59)(v^2)+11.7+170
935-11.7-170=40,474+29.5v^2
V^2=
v=

Where an I going wrong with this?


C. After crossing the patch of soft snow, the skier hits a snowdrift and penetrates a distance 3.00m into it before coming to a stop. What is the average force exerted on her by the snowdrift as it stops her?
 
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first of all, please don't put in numbers. Use variables. The number one source of error is using numbers before having derived.

So in your first part, you have 1/2mvi^2 = 1/2mvf^2 + mgh - Et (friction). There is a flaw in your equation there. The skier didn't gain potential energy coming down the hill, and the thermal heat wasn't gained, it was lost.

Try to fix that.

Then in your second part, try doing an energy balance equation again. Try to do the first part first.
 
Well first off, I notice that you used the correct value of 31.7 m/s in the second part of the question, but for the first part you wrote it as 31.4 m/s. It might be a typo, but if not it'll need correcting.

For the second part of the question, start by calculating the frictional force acting on the skier using the formula:
F = \mu R

Once you have that force, you can add it to the force due to air resistance, then you can calculate the work done on the skier with:
W = Fd

Then you can subtract that from the skiers initial kinetic energy, to find the KE after the patch of soft snow and therefore also their velocity.


For the final part of the question, you know their initial velocity (the answer from part b), their final velocity (0) and the distance it takes to stop. So you'd need to calculate their deceleration with:
v^{2} = u^{2} + 2as

And then plug that into:
F = ma
 
yea, but lavalamp. he did the first part wrong.
 
While I admit that the working out could be ... improved upon. The poster did get the correct answer.

It is possible that for the work that will be handed in it was laid out correctly, since I find that when typing lots of people tend to get lazy and write things that are incorrect but where the meaning is (usually) clear.
 
What does U^2 and R stand for in those equations
 
u is initial velocity, and R is the normal force.
 
Thanks for all the help, I figured it out
 

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