Factor the matrix into the form QR where Q is orthogonal

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The discussion revolves around factoring a matrix into the form QR, where Q is orthogonal and R is upper triangular. The original poster presents a specific matrix equation and explores conditions for the factorization.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster outlines a matrix factorization attempt and raises questions about the conditions for Q being orthogonal. Other participants discuss the uniqueness of such factorizations and the specific conditions that define orthogonality.

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Participants are actively exploring the requirements for Q to be orthogonal, including the need for column vectors to be unit vectors. There is an ongoing dialogue about the conditions that must be satisfied, with no explicit consensus reached on all stipulations.

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Some participants note the importance of understanding the conditions for orthogonality, including the requirement for unit vectors, while also considering the implications of non-uniqueness in matrix factorizations.

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Factor the matrix into the form QR where Q is orthogonal and R is upper triangular.

\begin{bmatrix}<br /> a &amp; b\\ <br /> c &amp; d<br /> \end{bmatrix}*\begin{bmatrix}<br /> e &amp; f\\ <br /> 0 &amp; g<br /> \end{bmatrix}=\begin{bmatrix}<br /> -1 &amp; 3\\ <br /> 1 &amp; 5<br /> \end{bmatrix}

\begin{bmatrix}<br /> a &amp; c <br /> \end{bmatrix}*\begin{bmatrix}<br /> b\\ <br /> d<br /> \end{bmatrix}=0

ae=-1

af+bg=3

ce=1

cf+dg=5

Skipping some steps but I arrive at:\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 1 &amp; \frac{4}{g}\\ <br /> -1 &amp; \frac{4}{g}<br /> \end{bmatrix}*\begin{bmatrix}<br /> -1 &amp; -1\\ <br /> 0 &amp; g<br /> \end{bmatrix}=\begin{bmatrix}<br /> -1 &amp; 3\\ <br /> 1 &amp; 5<br /> \end{bmatrix}

So as long as g \neq 0 it is all good?
 
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Works for me. You have a matrix that is orthogonal and another that is upper triangular, and they multiply to make the matrix on the right. The moral of the story seems to be that such factorizations aren't unique.
 


"Q is orthogonal" consists of three conditions, not one...
 


I forgot about the part where the columns have to be unit vectors...
 


Ok so the column vectors also have to be unit vectors and what is the other stipulation?
 


Dustinsfl said:
Ok so the column vectors also have to be unit vectors and what is the other stipulation?
I was counting polynomial equations -- so what you just said counts as 2 conditions.
 

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