Factorize in Q[x] , R[x] and C[X]

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The discussion focuses on the factorization of the polynomial 4x^6 + 8x^5 - 3x^4 - 19x^3 - 26x^2 - 15x - 3 in the contexts of Q[x], R[x], and C[x]. Initial attempts at factorization led to a disagreement about the correctness of the roots, particularly regarding the presence of rational roots. The conversation highlights a method for identifying irrational roots, specifically those of the form √r, by separating polynomial terms and analyzing their behavior. It concludes with the identification of ±√3 as roots of the polynomial, emphasizing the complexity of finding such roots by hand. This exchange illustrates the challenges and techniques involved in polynomial factorization across different fields.
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Factorize in Q[x] , R[x] and C[X]

4x^6 + 8x^5 - 3x^4 - 19x^3 - 26x^2 - 15x - 3


I couldn't finish it but this is up to where I did:

4(x+1/2)^2 (x^4+x^3-2x^2-3x-3)
 
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Your factorization cannot be correct.
In the original one, 1 is not a root, whereas 1 is a root in your second one.
 
Im sorry I can't see that.
In the second gives -6
 
Sorry, my mistake.
 
Well, my calculator says that the remaining real solutions of your fourth-degree factor are \pm \sqrt{3} but I don't know how you could find those by hand.
 
Yes that's right thanks
 
0rthodontist said:
but I don't know how you could find those by hand.

That was a problem in my exam
 
Well--how do you find them by hand then, seeing how they are irrational?
 
It's easy to check if a polynomial has any rational roots. To see if it has irrational roots of the form \sqrt{r} for r rational, you can break up the polynomial into even and odd terms and substitute in \sqrt{r}, which will leave something like e(r)+o(r) \sqrt{r}. For r rational, this will only be zero if e(r)=o(r)=0. In this case,

x^4+x^3-2x^2-3x-3 = (x^4+2x^2-3) + (x^3-3x)=0

plugging in x= \sqrt{r}:

(r^2+2r-3) + \sqrt{r} (r-3)

We see that r=3 is a solution to both terms, and so x=\pm \sqrt{3} is a root of the original polynomial. This process can be generalized to cube roots, etc, but I doubt if it's very useful unless you know in advance that you'll have a root of this form.
 
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