Fairground ride, main driver & pin, forces, stress & angular velocity help

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem related to a fairground ride, focusing on the stresses experienced by a pin and an arm during operation, as well as calculations involving force and angular velocity. The scope includes theoretical concepts of stress, mathematical reasoning, and application of physics principles.

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  • Participants discuss the types of stress experienced by the pin and the arm, with some suggesting tensile stress on the arm and shear stress on the pin.
  • One participant proposes using the formula stress = Force/Area to determine the maximum force exerted on the pin.
  • Another participant suggests substituting the centrifugal force formula into the stress equation to find angular velocity, indicating a method for rearranging the equations to solve for the desired variable.
  • There is acknowledgment of the need for an attempt at a solution before receiving further assistance, in line with forum rules.

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Participants generally agree on the approach to solving the problem, particularly regarding the use of stress formulas. However, there is no consensus on the correctness of the assumptions or calculations presented, as participants are still in the process of working through the problem.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the entire problem and the specific steps needed to arrive at the solution, indicating potential gaps in understanding or application of the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


A fair ground ride comprises of a car, connected to an arm, secured to the main driver by a pin. It rotates about a vertical axis.

when operational:
a) what type of stress is experienced by the pin?, and what type of stress is experienced by the arm?
b) if the max allowable stress in the pin is 15MN/m²; the pin is 25mm diameter, determine the max force F that the car should exert on the pin.
c)if the loaded mass of the car is 200Kg and the radius from the axis of rotation to the centre of mass of the car is 8m determine the angular velocity of the car about the axis of rotation which will give rise to a stress of 12MN/m² in the pin.

I know its a lot to ask but I've really been tearing my hair out over this question as i don't have an example to work from so any help on this would be great .. an example for me to work off would be even better. Thanks

Homework Equations


Centrifugal force ... F=(m)(r)(w²)

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"I know its a lot to ask but I've really been tearing my hair out over this question..."

Are you referring to question c or are you referring to the entire problem?

Hint: There are tensile-compressive stresses and there are shear stresses.
 
the entire question, a b & c .
tensile on the arm & shear on the pin?
 
You must make an attempt before we can help - forum rules.
 
my apologies,

for question b) i believe that to find the force i must use the formula stress=Force/Area and re-arrange it to be Stress X Area = force.

for c) if stress = F/A and using the centrifugal force F=mass x r x angular velocity² do i substitute the centrifual force formula into the stress =f/a formula. then rearrange it all so i can work out the angular velocity which the question is asking for?

so Stress = (m.r.w²)/area of circle
rearranged to: stress x (area of circle)/(mass x radius) =w²
then square root the answer to get angular velocity?

i might be completely wrong but that's what i assume would be the way of getting the right answer
 
"for question b) i believe that to find the force i must use the formula stress=Force/Area and re-arrange it to be Stress X Area = force. "

Correct

"for c) if stress = F/A and using the centrifugal force F=mass x r x angular velocity² do i substitute the centrifual force formula into the stress =f/a formula. then rearrange it all so i can work out the angular velocity which the question is asking for?"

Yes, that's it.
 
that's brilliant! thank you! :)
 

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