Drugs for Closest Feeling to Being in Love?

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The discussion centers on the search for drugs that replicate the feeling of being in love, with participants suggesting various substances. MDMA and oxytocin are highlighted as potential candidates, with MDMA offering a sense of universal love and oxytocin being linked to bonding and affection. Participants debate the physiological effects of these substances compared to the emotional experience of love, noting that no drug can truly replicate the depth of romantic feelings. The conversation also touches on the role of food, particularly chocolate, in evoking similar emotions. Ultimately, the consensus is that while certain drugs can enhance feelings of love or connection, they cannot replace the genuine experience of being in love.
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I am nieve in many ways. This is enitrely an innocent question from an innocent and curious person.

Which drug (legal or illegal) gives the closest feeling/effect to a human of being in love?

I guess there still recquires somoene that you desire present for the effect to occur? Or maybe only a picture of them will do? Or maybe it dosen't recquire anyone present? But then who are you in love with?
 
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I don't know of any drug that simulates the "feeling of being in love".
 
It's called 'chocolate'.
 
For me it's angus beef burgers at Hardee's. I would gladly give up chocolate for their hamburgers.
 
For me, it's cheesecake with a little bit of whipped cream (the good quality stuff), and some raspberry stuff drizzled on it. It genuinely makes me feel all lovey. It was only after I had that the first time at a restaurant when I understood how people talk about a food being an aphrodisiac.
 
The feelings induced by drugs are nothing like the wonderful feeling of falling in love. Love is so much better!
 
Wish I had some right now ... this girl messed me up :( Life would be different.
 
My http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_faq.shtml#effects" is that MDMA / ecstasy gives you a feeling not of romantic love but of the “Aw shucks, you guys are all so great!” love-the-world variety.

Also, dilation of the pupils is a http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/132/3423/349" . They'll actually photoshop the pupils of models appearing in advertisements to achieve this effect. So if someone's taking a drug that does the same thing it might make you think they've falling in love with you.
 
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Illegally, from what I've heard, ecstasy. Legally (and naturally) I'd say its the real "Love Drug" oxytocin.
 
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Viagra, of course.
 
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Seriously, Viagra goes against evolution. If your so old you can't get it up (or just impaired), then you don't need to be screwing.
 
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binzing said:
Seriously, Viagra goes against evolution. If your so old you can't get it up (or just impaired), then you don't need to be screwing.

That might be true if humans just made love for procreation. Humans also have sex for pleasure.
 
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binzing said:
Seriously, Viagra goes against evolution. If your so old you can't get it up (or just impaired), then you don't need to be screwing.

Ah, dude, not to be an age discrimination Nazi or anything but a lot of people would say that's very ignorant. Sure it's when you're a teenager or young adult that the juices are really flowing but people don't become asexual when they get older.
 
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binzing said:
Seriously, Viagra goes against evolution. If your so old you can't get it up (or just impaired), then you don't need to be screwing.

Believe me, binzing, you will SO want to screw when you're old.
 
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Eee gads, old sex. BTW, I meant like 65 plus. Not those below that. When I'm like 70 and up I am going to be the most crotchey, ornery old b@$t@rd on Earth. It'll be so much fun!
 
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binzing said:
Eee gads, old sex. BTW, I meant like 65 plus. Not those below that. When I'm like 70 and up I am going to be the most crotchey, ornery old b@$t@rd on Earth. It'll be so much fun!

:smile:

Yeah, that'll be fun...but don't be surprised if you feel a bit :devil: from time to time :blushing: !
 
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binzing said:
Eee gads, old sex. BTW, I meant like 65 plus. Not those below that.

Remember that some of the people reading this may be 65+.
 
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Yes yes, and my compliments to them if they are still partaking of that fine, athletic activity at that age.
 
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binzing said:
Yes yes, and my compliments to them if they are still partaking of that fine, athletic activity at that age.

...well it doesn't have to be like doing gymnastics, you know...
 
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Danger said:
It's called 'chocolate'.

God damn. I was going to say that. Kudos to you, sir. :wink:
 
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Chocolate by itself is all right, but combine chocolate and a dark red wine after a steak dinner...no contest
 
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Some the drugs stated like viagra or ecstasy are for enhanced sexual performance. I was thinking of the feeling of love without explicit sexual feelings. i.e the physiological effects from the heart.

I can remember once noticing her and acting so uncontrollable that people might have thought I was on drugs or something. I just couldn't control myself at the time, I was acting very irrationally. At the time, I was thinking whether being on drugs gave you the same uncontrollable feeling. However during those love moments, I don't get any sexual thoughts.
 
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Greg Freeman said:
Chocolate by itself is all right, but combine chocolate and a dark red wine after a steak dinner...no contest

Chocolate? Very different to being in love with someone though.
 
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i know of better drugs to slip into ladies' drinks.
 
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so, oxytocin is what you were looking for.
 
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binzing said:
so, oxytocin is what you were looking for.

And where can you by that from? Even if you do have it, you still need someone to be in love with? Or would it make you be in love with someone easier?

It raises the question for past drug users, which feels better being on your favourite drug or being in love?

If the drug then which one?
 
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tgt said:
Which drug (legal or illegal) gives the closest feeling/effect to a human of being in love?

It is a simple love potion sold for a dollar a bottle at a small shop in the Twilight Zone.

The glove cleaner is far more expensive.
 
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tgt said:
I am nieve in many ways. This is enitrely an innocent question from an innocent and curious person.

Which drug (legal or illegal) gives the closest feeling/effect to a human of being in love?

I guess there still recquires somoene that you desire present for the effect to occur? Or maybe only a picture of them will do? Or maybe it dosen't recquire anyone present? But then who are you in love with?

Viagra?

That's the closest you'll ever get.

Einstienear
 
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Source of oxytocin: sex, childbirth, and love. Basically, get some of your blood right after you've had sex and you'd have it there.
 
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Einstienear said:
Viagra?

It is illegal? If so why? Is that only for sexual performance?
 
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tgt said:
It is illegal? If so why? Is that only for sexual performance?


No, it is not illegal, but a subscription is required from a doctor.
 
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binzing said:
Source of oxytocin: sex, childbirth, and love. Basically, get some of your blood right after you've had sex and you'd have it there.

Is oxytocin produced in smaller quantities as one age? Between what ages is this produced at greatest quantities?
 
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Umm, when your physically mature I'd assume the body would make the most. Although, maybe when you are in puberty.
 
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Einstienear said:
No, it is not illegal, but a subscription is required from a doctor.

Is the only reason so that people don't order too much? Or doctors can analyse whether this person can take this drug as it has sideeffects which this person may be allegic to.
 
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binzing said:
Umm, when your physically mature I'd assume the body would make the most. Although, maybe when you are in puberty.

When does it decline?
 
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I don't know. I am assuming you are not from the US, Canada, or Britain, so it might be worth it to check it out in some of your native language websites.
 
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binzing said:
I don't know. I am assuming you are not from the US, Canada, or Britain, so it might be worth it to check it out in some of your native language websites.


Native language?
 
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The reason that I mentioned chocolate is that it's a heavy source of phenylethylamine, which is a chemical naturally produced when one is in love.
As for the age thing, I think that it depends upon one's circumstances. An uncommitted fellow can go for his entire life. If you're in a monogamous relationship, things change. There were over half a dozen young ladies hanging about after our pool match tonight, anyone of which would normally have had me tripping over my tongue.
W made it very clear when we first moved in together (about a month after we met) that she would never even consider a sexual relationship with another guy. My family has always been a bit relaxed in that regard, but I submitted to her opinion. Now, even though it's not natural for humans to be monogamists, I can't pay any sort of attention to even the hotties that were around tonight. That's not a matter of submitting to her will; it's a matter of me not wanting anyone but her.
My sex drive essentially doesn't exist apart from hers. Unless she wants some, I have no desire. When she does, I'm up for it (pardon the expression) instantly. That strikes me as a little weird, but it suits both of us.
 
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Danger said:
The reason that I mentioned chocolate is that it's a heavy source of phenylethylamine, which is a chemical naturally produced when one is in love.
As for the age thing, I think that it depends upon one's circumstances. An uncommitted fellow can go for his entire life. If you're in a monogamous relationship, things change. There were over half a dozen young ladies hanging about after our pool match tonight, anyone of which would normally have had me tripping over my tongue.
W made it very clear when we first moved in together (about a month after we met) that she would never even consider a sexual relationship with another guy. My family has always been a bit relaxed in that regard, but I submitted to her opinion. Now, even though it's not natural for humans to be monogamists, I can't pay any sort of attention to even the hotties that were around tonight. That's not a matter of submitting to her will; it's a matter of me not wanting anyone but her.
My sex drive essentially doesn't exist apart from hers. Unless she wants some, I have no desire. When she does, I'm up for it (pardon the expression) instantly. That strikes me as a little weird, but it suits both of us.

Do you want to say that it's something physiological and has nothing to do with morality and commitment?

PS I guess my English is getting so terrible these days so take it easy on me if I've made any mistake here!:wink:
 
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Danger said:
The reason that I mentioned chocolate is that it's a heavy source of phenylethylamine, which is a chemical naturally produced when one is in love.
As for the age thing, I think that it depends upon one's circumstances. An uncommitted fellow can go for his entire life. If you're in a monogamous relationship, things change. There were over half a dozen young ladies hanging about after our pool match tonight, anyone of which would normally have had me tripping over my tongue.
W made it very clear when we first moved in together (about a month after we met) that she would never even consider a sexual relationship with another guy. My family has always been a bit relaxed in that regard, but I submitted to her opinion. Now, even though it's not natural for humans to be monogamists, I can't pay any sort of attention to even the hotties that were around tonight. That's not a matter of submitting to her will; it's a matter of me not wanting anyone but her.
My sex drive essentially doesn't exist apart from hers. Unless she wants some, I have no desire. When she does, I'm up for it (pardon the expression) instantly. That strikes me as a little weird, but it suits both of us.

Thanks for the insight. It's strange how humans behave. I can share my little story. When I was living with my parents, my sex drive was lowering but as soon as I moved out, it rose remarkably not for any other reason other than that I am living independently on my own. I think it is beautiful what you described. Glad it exists.
 
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Danger, what does W think about your former sex partners?
 
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She just doesn't want to hear about them. It isn't because of the sex; it's because they were unsuccessful relationships which she takes to mean that they were not good people. I tried to introduce her to the ex-from-hell, and she wouldn't even go to that side of the room. I got sneaky about it, though; I introduced her to a different ex (who is married to my best friend; I was best-man at the wedding) without mentioning the background. They got on like gangbusters. It was about 2 days before I clued her in, but by then they were friends so it didn't matter.
She was no virgin when I met her. She lived with 2 different guys, one of whom fathered her 2 sons (starting when she was 16), and was married to 2 others. Her 2nd husband died about a year before we met, and the first, who was the father of her 2 daughters, just died Thursday afternoon. That's why she isn't her now. She's up in Lloyd trying to hold things together for the kids.
 
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binzing said:
Source of oxytocin: sex, childbirth, and love. Basically, get some of your blood right after you've had sex and you'd have it there.
Don't confuse sexual desire with being in love, or loving someone. That seems to be a common misconception.

There are a number of compounds that cause feelings of euphoria similar to those one experiences during an infatuation. However, like euphoria, those feelings subside and one needs to take additional doses of such a compound in order to repeat the euphoric sensation.

Being in love brings with it a sustained feeling, at least in my experience, of happiness, joy, contentment and satisfaction that is unachieveable with any drug.
 
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Astronuc said:
Being in love brings with it a sustained feeling, at least in my experience, of happiness, joy, contentment and satisfaction that is unachieveable with any drug.

I think I just had such a feeling with someone in a class. At the time, I was thinking this state I'm in must be the 'definition of happiness'. All other forms of happiness is only a fraction of what I was feeling at the time.
 
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tgt said:
I think I just had such a feeling with someone in a class. At the time, I was thinking this state I'm in must be the 'definition of happiness'. All other forms of happiness is only a fraction of what I was feeling at the time.
I suspect one experienced an infatuation, which is often what people mean when they say 'falling in love'. Certainly the 'love at first sight' feeling is pretty power because of the release of chemicals which causes an immediate sensation ('rush') based on the immediate change in brain chemistry. That's quite natural, and probably many relationships begin this way.

But to really love someone, one has to know that person very well.
 
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Astronuc said:
I suspect one experienced an infatuation, which is often what people mean when they say 'falling in love'. Certainly the 'love at first sight' feeling is pretty power because of the release of chemicals which causes an immediate sensation ('rush') based on the immediate change in brain chemistry. That's quite natural, and probably many relationships begin this way.

But to really love someone, one has to know that person very well.

So I guess the really love someone feeling is not as intense as the infatuation you talked about?

Mind you, the one I am talking about wasn't very immediate and took some conversations and after an hour, it really kicked in. Is that still 'love at first sight'? Or something else?
 
  • #48
tgt said:
So I guess the really love someone feeling is not as intense as the infatuation you talked about?

It's not intense in the way that I think you're using the word. It is very deep and sustained, but without that 'rush' effect. I risk degrading the matter by offering an analogy, but what the hell... I think that it's vaguely similar to the difference between relaxing with a very fine old Scotch or snorting a line of coke. One can make you feel like the king of the world for a brief interlude, and then it's gone. The other can keep you mellow and content for several hours.
 
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Danger said:
It's not intense in the way that I think you're using the word. It is very deep and sustained, but without that 'rush' effect. I risk degrading the matter by offering an analogy, but what the hell... I think that it's vaguely similar to the difference between relaxing with a very fine old Scotch or snorting a line of coke. One can make you feel like the king of the world for a brief interlude, and then it's gone. The other can keep you mellow and content for several hours.

How long and how well does one need to know someone before this deep and sustained love can occur?

I haven't smoked coke or other drugs like it before but which does one feel is more king of the world, intense infatuation or smoking coke? I am aware both are for a short period of time.
 
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That is entirely up to the individuals involved. One thing that I can tell you for sure, though, is that it continues to become stronger throughout the relationship. It not only survives good times, hardships, and tooth-and-nail arguments... it thrives upon them. Every interaction that you have, whether it's holding her tightly when she's sad or holding her head under the covers when you fart, brings you closer together. (Although the immediate reaction might not be the same. :rolleyes:)
 
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