Filter Performance Assessment Using Basic Equipment: A Practical Guide

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To benchmark a filter's attenuation across various loads and harmonics, simulation tools like SPICE can be utilized, especially with Monte Carlo variations for component tolerances. For physical circuits, a Spectrum Analyzer with a Tracking Generator can effectively measure output response, while an Impedance/Gain-Phase analyzer like the HP 4194 offers additional capabilities. Basic testing can also be performed using a signal generator and an oscilloscope, where amplitude and phase shift measurements are taken manually. Displaying both input and output waveforms on the oscilloscope allows for effective analysis at specific frequencies. These methods provide a practical approach to filter performance assessment.
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Hi,
Say I have a design for a filter, is there a method of bench-marking it's attenuation over a variety of loads and types of harmonics? (or even common and differential noises)

For instance, say I wanted to compare a filter to an LC filter or a π filter, how does one evaluate how much better or worse these are to each other and to other filters?

Cheers
 
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tim9000 said:
Hi,
Say I have a design for a filter, is there a method of bench-marking it's attenuation over a variety of loads and types of harmonics? (or even common and differential noises)

For instance, say I wanted to compare a filter to an LC filter or a π filter, how does one evaluate how much better or worse these are to each other and to other filters?

Cheers
In simulation, you would use one of the SPICE packages, preferably one that let's you use Monte Carlo variations to explore what happens over component tolerances.

For actual circuits, you can use a Spectrum Analyzer with Tracking Generator Output to scan the input signal to the filter and plot the output response (gain, not phase). Alternately, you can use the Gain-Phase measurement capability of an Impedance/Gain-Phase analyzer instrument like the HP 4194 (we have several in our Lab)...

http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/usedequipment/images/4194a.jpg
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berkeman said:
In simulation, you would use one of the SPICE packages, preferably one that let's you use Monte Carlo variations to explore what happens over component tolerances.

For actual circuits, you can use a Spectrum Analyzer with Tracking Generator Output to scan the input signal to the filter and plot the output response (gain, not phase). Alternately, you can use the Gain-Phase measurement capability of an Impedance/Gain-Phase analyzer instrument like the HP 4194 (we have several in our Lab)...

http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/usedequipment/images/4194a.jpg
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Thanks for the reply.
Also, is there any testing methodology for performing assessment with more basic equipment like a signal generator and an oscilloscope?
Cheers
 
tim9000 said:
Thanks for the reply.
Also, is there any testing methodology for performing assessment with more basic equipment like a signal generator and an oscilloscope?
Cheers
Yes, you can certainly do basic testing with a signal generator and oscilloscope. You just end up using the cursors on the 'scope to make your amplitude and phase shift measurements, and putting them into a spreadsheet by hand for plotting. Display both the input and output waveforms on the display and make your measurements at frequencies of interest. I did that plenty back in my school days, before I had access to Gain-Phase instruments like the HP 4194. :smile:
 
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