Find Acceleration: Car Stops from 100 m/s in 410 m Distance

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of a car that stops from a velocity of 100 m/s over a distance of 410 m. Participants explore the appropriate equations and methods for determining acceleration, addressing potential misunderstandings regarding negative values and the variables involved.

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  • One participant suggests that the negative value for acceleration is not an issue, as it can represent deceleration.
  • Another participant provides a derivation of the equations of motion, leading to the formula for acceleration: \( a = \frac{v_f^2 - v_i^2}{2\Delta x} \).
  • A participant expresses confusion about the variable \( \Delta x \) and attempts to derive acceleration using an incomplete equation.
  • Clarification is provided regarding the values of \( \Delta x \), \( v_f \), and \( v_i \), emphasizing the importance of units in calculations.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to solving the problem, as some express confusion about the variables and calculations involved. Multiple viewpoints on the interpretation of negative acceleration and the application of equations are present.

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Some participants' calculations and assumptions are not fully resolved, particularly regarding the interpretation of \( \Delta x \) and the application of the equations of motion. There is also uncertainty about the correct application of the formula for acceleration.

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Find the acceleration of a car that comes to a stop from a velocity of 100 m/s in a distance of 410 m.Answer: -24.39 The answer has been given back to me as incorrect

is this because I inputed a negative value and acceleration cannot be negative?Thanks!
 
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Hi mathkid3, :)

Acceleration can be negative. Think of it as deceleration. So that's not the issue.

What equation did you use to solve for "a"? I suggest using ${v_f}^2={v_i}^2+2ad$
 
If we assume constant acceleration $a$, then we note that:

(1) $\displaystyle \Delta v=v_f-v_i=at$

(2) $\displaystyle \Delta x=\frac{1}{2}at^2+v_it$

From (1), we may state:

$\displaystyle t=\frac{v_f-v_i}{a}$ and substituting into (2) we find:

$\displaystyle \Delta x=\frac{1}{2}a\left(\frac{v_f-v_i}{a} \right)^2+v_i\left(\frac{v_f-v_i}{a} \right)$

Multiplying through by $2a$ we obtain:

$\displaystyle 2a\Delta x=v_f^2-v_i^2$

This is equivalent to the relation cited by Jameson. And so:

$\displaystyle a=\frac{v_f^2-v_i^2}{2\Delta x}$

Now plug-n-chug! :cool:
 
a = (0-85) / 2deltax

what is delta x ?

I can only get to the above and/or if I ignore delta x I would get something like acceleration = -42.5 or deceleration is this casehelp Mark!
 
$\Delta x$ is how far the car moved during its acceleration, which is given as 410 m.

$v_f$ is the final velocity, and since the car came to a stop, this is $0\,\dfrac{\text{m}}{\text{s}}$

$v_i$ is the initial velocity which is given as $100\,\dfrac{\text{m}}{\text{s}}$

So, plug in those values (along with the units, it is important in a physics course to get used to carrying the units too) and what do you get?
 

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