Find amplitude and frequency given positions and speeds

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The discussion revolves around solving a classical mechanics problem regarding an oscillating mass with known positions and speeds. The key equations for simple harmonic motion are provided, along with the relationships between constants. The main challenge is determining the amplitude and angular frequency from the given data. A suggestion is made to consider the potential energy and conservation of energy principles to derive the necessary values. The realization that potential energy can aid in solving the problem leads to a breakthrough in understanding the relationship between the variables.
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Homework Statement



I'm working my way through Classical Mechanics by J.R. Taylor. I'm stumped by the one-star ("easiest") Problem 5.11: "You are told that, at known positions x1 and x2, an oscillating mass m has speeds v1 and v2. What are the amplitude and angular frequency of the oscillations?"

Homework Equations



Taylor gives the following equations for simple harmonic motion:

5.5 x(t) = C_{1}e^{iωt} + C_{2}e^{iωt}
5.6 x(t) = B_{1}cos(ωt) + B_{2}sin(ωt)
5.11 x(t) = Acos(ωt - \delta)
5.14 x(t) = Re[Aei(ωt - \delta)]

Taylor gives relationships among the constants A, B's, and C's.

The Attempt at a Solution



Solutions are given at the back of the book:

A = sqrt( (x_{2}^{2}v_{1}^{2} - x_{1}^{2}v_{2}^{2}) / (v_{1}^{2} - v_{2}^{2}))

ω = sqrt( (v_{1}^{2} - v_{2}^{2}) / (x_{2}^{2} - x_{1}^{2}) )

Equations 5.6 and 5.11 immediately give positions at times ωt_{1} and ωt_{2}; differentiating those equations gives speeds. It's easy to get the amplitude A in terms of ωt, e.g.

A = x_{1}/cos(ωt_{1}).

But I can't figure out how to get A in terms of the x's and v's. I don't see how to separate ω from the t's, or how to get ω out of the trig functions.
 
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Those formulas all assume that the oscillation is around x=0. Do we know that? Let's assume we do.
We need the additional assumption that the mass is in a harmonic potential.

Can you write down the potential?
Based on this potential and the velocities, what can you tell about the energies at x1 and x2? What about energy conservation?
With the known energy and shape of the potential, you can calculate everything else.
 
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Oh. Potential energy. Of course. That works--thanks!
 
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