Find intersection of parametric curve and line

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The discussion focuses on finding the intersection points between the parametric curve defined by x(t) = (2t^3)/(t^2-1) and the line x = 20. The initial approach involved setting y = t and substituting into the equations, but this led to confusion and incorrect assumptions about the parameters. It was clarified that the line's parameter should be independent of the curve's parameter, and the correct equation to solve is 20 = (2t^3)/(t^2-1). Further analysis indicates that the cubic equation derived from this setup has at least one real root between t = 1 and t = 2, suggesting the existence of two intersection points with y-values expected to be between 0 and 1. The discussion emphasizes the need for careful handling of parameters and equations to accurately determine the intersections.
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Homework Statement



I'm trying to find when that parametric curve intersects with the line x=20

Homework Equations



x(t)=(2t^3)/(t^2-1) ; y(t)=(2t^3)/((t^2+1)^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried representing the line as y=t ; x=20

35=2t^3/(t^2-1) ; t=2t^3/((t^2+1)^2)

I also ended up with this equation:
20(t^2-1)=t(t^2+1)^2
but solving for it did not end up with the answers I expect to have. The y-values should be between 0 and 1.

Solving for t in terms of x, then plugging into the y(t) equation resulted in imaginary numbers. So how do you find the 2 intersections?
note: I need the answers by tonight. Thank you!
 
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physixer said:

Homework Statement



I'm trying to find when that parametric curve intersects with the line x=20

Homework Equations



x(t)=(2t^3)/(t^2-1) ; y(t)=(2t^3)/((t^2+1)^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried representing the line as y=t ; x=20
Better to use (20, y) or y= s, x= 20. There is no reason to assume the parameter for the line is the same as the parameter for the curve.

35=2t^3/(t^2-1) ;
I assume you mean 20= 2t^3/(t^2- 1). If not, I have no idea where you got "35" from!

t=2t^3/((t^2+1)^2)
No. Again the two parameters are not the same. Better, solve the first equation for t, then use that value of t in y= 2t^3/(t+1)^2

I also ended up with this equation:
20(t^2-1)=t(t^2+1)^2
but solving for it did not end up with the answers I expect to have. The y-values should be between 0 and 1.

Solving for t in terms of x, then plugging into the y(t) equation resulted in imaginary numbers. So how do you find the 2 intersections?
note: I need the answers by tonight. Thank you!
 
My bad, it is indeed 20 = ...

But, I tried solving for the first equation and it resulted in imaginary answers. Plugging THOSE into y=2t^3/(t+1)^2 just resulted in imaginary answers, as well. Looking at the parametric graph and the line together, though, I know there are two intersections with y-values between 0 and 1. I just can't figure out the exact answers.
 
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That's impossible. That's a cubic equation with real coefficients- since complex roots of polynomial equations with real coefficents come in conjugate pairs, any such cubic equation has at least one real root.

20= 20t^3/(t^2-1) is the same as 20t^2- 20= 2t^3 or 2t^3- 20t^2+ 20= 0. I notice that if t= 1, 2t^3- 20t^2+ 20= 2- 20+20= 2> 0 while if t= 2, 2t^3- 20t^2+ 20= 16- 80+ 20= -44< 0 so there is a real root between 1 and 2.
 
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