Finding n in Hydrogen Atom Excitation with Bohr Model

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A hydrogen atom in an excited state absorbs a photon with a wavelength of 410 nm, leading to a discussion on determining the initial and final quantum states using the Rydberg equation. The equation reveals two unknowns, the lower and upper energy levels (n_l and n_u), making it challenging to find a definitive solution. Participants suggest that guessing values for n_l can help identify n_u, starting with n1=1 and then n1=2 to narrow down possibilities. The approach of guessing is acknowledged as a practical, albeit inelegant, method to solve the problem. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes the trial-and-error nature of finding the quantum states in this scenario.
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Homework Statement


A hydrogen atom in an excited state absorbs a photon of wavelength 410 nm. What were the initial and final states of the hydrogen atom.


Homework Equations


Rydberg equation:
\frac{1}{λ}=R_∞(\frac{1}{n{_l}{^2}}-\frac{1}{n{_u}{^2}})


The Attempt at a Solution


Plugging that wavelength into the equation, I still have two unknowns; the lower n and the upper n. Would finding the frequency help? I don't see any equations I could use that would help me find one of those n's.

Thanks
 
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leroyjenkens said:

Homework Statement


A hydrogen atom in an excited state absorbs a photon of wavelength 410 nm. What were the initial and final states of the hydrogen atom.


Homework Equations


Rydberg equation:
\frac{1}{λ}=R_∞(\frac{1}{n{_l}{^2}}-\frac{1}{n{_u}{^2}})


The Attempt at a Solution


Plugging that wavelength into the equation, I still have two unknowns; the lower n and the upper n. Would finding the frequency help? I don't see any equations I could use that would help me find one of those n's.

Thanks

No, you can't find one of those n's. You'll have to guess until you find a good match. Try n1=1 first, figure out why that can't work. Then try n1=2. Then you should be able to find pretty good value of n2 just by guessing. I don't know any other way to play this game.
 
Dick said:
No, you can't find one of those n's. You'll have to guess until you find a good match. Try n1=1 first, figure out why that can't work. Then try n1=2. Then you should be able to find pretty good value of n2 just by guessing. I don't know any other way to play this game.

Oh ok thanks. I thought about guessing, but thought that was a pretty inelegant way to do it, so I assumed there must have been another way. Guess not.

Thanks.
 
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