Find Polynomial Given Remainder After Division

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a polynomial of degree 3 given specific remainders after division by two quadratic polynomials. Participants explore the implications of these remainders and the calculations involved in determining the polynomial's coefficients.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a polynomial division problem and questions the substitution of \(f(-2) = -8\), expressing confusion over its origin.
  • Another participant outlines a method for expressing the polynomial in terms of its divisors and remainders, leading to a system of equations to solve for the coefficients.
  • It is noted that the participant's derived polynomial, \(f(x) = -\frac{1}{3}x^3 + \frac{1}{3}x^2 + 5x - 2\), satisfies the remainder conditions, contradicting the book's answer.
  • Several participants discuss the reasoning behind substituting values into the polynomial to find specific outputs, particularly \(f(-2)\) leading to \(-8\).
  • There is a reiteration of the polynomial remainder theorem, emphasizing that if \(x=r\) is a root of the divisor, then \(f(r) = R(r)\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the correctness of the book's answer, with some supporting the derived polynomial and others questioning the calculations leading to \(f(-2) = -8\). The discussion remains unresolved regarding the validity of the different approaches presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on specific assumptions about polynomial division and the properties of remainders, which may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion includes a system of equations that is not fully resolved, leaving some steps and assumptions implicit.

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11. Given a polynomial with the degree 3. If it is divided by [math]x^2+2x-3[/math], the remainder is 2x + 1. If it is divided by [math]x^2+2x[/math], the remainder is 3x - 2. The polynomial is ...
A. [math]\frac23x^3+\frac43x^2+3x-2[/math]
B. [math]\frac23x^3+\frac43x^2+3x+2[/math]
C. [math]\frac23x^3+\frac43x^2-3x+2[/math]
D. [math]x^3+2x^2+3x-2[/math]
E. [math]2x^3+4x^2+3x+2[/math]

The book says that the answer is A, but I don't understand the part when they suddenly substitute f(-2) = -8, where does that come from? I tried doing it myself and got a (the coefficient of [math]x^3[/math]) as [math]-\frac13[/math]. Can you tell me what's wrong?
 
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I would begin by writing:

$$\frac{ax^3+bx^2+cx+d}{(x+3)(x-1)}=Q(x)+\frac{2x+1}{(x+3)(x-1)}$$

Or:

$$f(x)=ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=Q_1(x)(x+3)(x-1)+2x+1$$

Now, we may state, by looking at the roots of the divisor:

$$f(-3)=-27a+9b-3c+d=-5$$

$$f(1)=a+b+c+d=3$$

Next, we may write:

$$f(x)=ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=Q_2(x)x(x+2)+3x-2$$

Hence:

$$f(0)=d=-2$$

$$f(-2)=-8a+4b-2c+d=-8$$

Now, with \(d=-2\), we obtain the following 3 X 3 system of equations:

$$-27a+9b-3c=-3\implies -9a+3b-c=-1$$

$$a+b+c=5$$

$$-8a+4b-2c=-6\implies -4a+2b-c=-3$$

Solving this system, there results:

$$(a,b,c,d)=\left(-\frac{1}{3},\frac{1}{3},5,-2\right)$$

Thus:

$$f(x)=-\frac{1}{3}x^3+\frac{1}{3}x^2+5x-2$$

I have verified, using W|A, that the above cubic results in the correct remainders in both cases. Your book is wrong about A being the correct choice, I would say.
 
Glad to see I was right, though I still can't comprehend why you got f(-2) as -8.
 
Monoxdifly said:
Glad to see I was right, though I still can't comprehend why you got f(-2) as -8.

Suppose \(f(x)\) is divided by the divisor \(D(x)\). This will result in a quotient \(Q(x)\) and a remainder \(R(x)\):

$$\frac{f(x)}{D(x)}=Q(x)+\frac{R(x)}{D(x)}$$

or:

$$f(x)=Q(x)D(x)+R(x)$$

Now, if \(x=r\) is a root of the divisor such that \(D(r)=0\), then we will have:

$$f(r)=R(r)$$

Does that make sense?
 
I see, so you substituted it to 3x - 2.
 
Monoxdifly said:
I see, so you substituted it to 3x - 2.

Yes, using the reasoning in my previous post, we can write:

$$f(-2)=3(-2)-2=-8$$
 
Okay, it is clear now. Thanks Mark!
 

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