Find positive integers a,b,n that satisfy this expression

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The discussion revolves around finding positive integers a, b, and n that satisfy the equation 96n + 88 = a^2 + b^2. Participants analyze the equation using modular arithmetic, particularly focusing on perfect squares modulo 4. They conclude that both a and b must be even to achieve a remainder of zero when the left-hand side is divided by 4. Further analysis leads to the realization that the left-hand side becomes odd while the right-hand side remains even, indicating that no solutions exist for the given equation. The conversation emphasizes the importance of modular reasoning in solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


Are there any positive integers n, a and b such that

96n+88=a^2+b^2


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The Attempt at a Solution


It resembles the Pythagorean theorem but I'm not sure how that would help me solve it. I factored the LHS

2^3((2^2)(3)n+11)=a^2+b^2

How do I proceed? Thanks.
 
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What can you say about perfect squares modulo 4?
 
haruspex said:
What can you say about perfect squares modulo 4?

I'm very bad with the whole modulus concept but I can see that a perfect square divided by 4 will always have a remainder of either 0 or 1.
 
sunnybrooke said:
a perfect square divided by 4 will always have a remainder of either 0 or 1.
Right, so what can the sum of two squares be mod 4?
 
0,1 or 2, right?
 
sunnybrooke said:
0,1 or 2, right?
Right. Now which of those could match the LHS (mod 4)?
 
haruspex said:
Right. Now which of those could match the LHS (mod 4)?

96 is divisible by 4 (remainder = 0). 88 is also divisible by 4 (remainder = 0). So sum of remainders (0 + 0) = 0.
 
sunnybrooke said:
96 is divisible by 4 (remainder = 0). 88 is also divisible by 4 (remainder = 0). So sum of remainders (0 + 0) = 0.
To get the remainder of zero, means that both a and b are even. Correct ?
 
SammyS said:
To get the remainder of zero, means that both a and b are even. Correct ?

Yes, they'd both have to be even. Should I substitute, a = 2u, b = 2v ?
 
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sunnybrooke said:
Yes, they'd both have to be even. Should I substitute, a = 2u, b = 2v ?
Yes, which allows some cancellation. See if you can then repeat the logic.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes, which allows some cancellation. See if you can then repeat the logic.

96n + 88 = 4u^2 + 4v^2
24n + 22 = u^2 + v^2
(LHS= 2 mod 4 --> both u and v are odd)

24n + 22 = (2w+1)^2 + (2x+1)^2
6n + 5 = w^2 + w + x^2 + x
(LHS = 3 mod 4 --> ??)

If k^2 = 0 mod 4 then either k = 0 mod 4 or k = 2 mod 4
If k^2 = 1 mod 4 then either k = 1 mod 4 or k = 3 mod 4

Is this correct? And please correct me if my notation is wrong. Thanks.
 
  • #12
sunnybrooke said:
6n + 5 = w^2 + w + x^2 + x
w2+w = w(w+1). What does that tell you about w2+w mod 2?
 
  • #13
haruspex said:
w2+w = w(w+1). What does that tell you about w2+w mod 2?

w(w+1)=odd*even=even --> w mod 2 = 0. same goes for x^2 + x. So the RHS is even but the LHS is odd. therefore it's not possible. Is that it?
 
  • #14
sunnybrooke said:
w(w+1)=odd*even=even --> w mod 2 = 0. same goes for x^2 + x. So the RHS is even but the LHS is odd. therefore it's not possible. Is that it?
That's it.
 
  • #15
Thank you so much haruspex and SammyS for breaking it down and guiding me through the problem. It helped me a lot :)
 
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