Find RMS Current for 1kΩ Resistor & 2H Inductor

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The discussion revolves around calculating the largest RMS current that can be tolerated in a circuit consisting of a 1 kΩ resistor and a 2 H inductor, under the constraint that the power dissipation does not exceed 250 mW. The context includes homework-related problem-solving and involves the application of electrical power equations in an AC circuit.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to find the current and suggests a method involving voltage and power equations.
  • Another participant advises using an appropriate expression for power, specifically mentioning that the resistor is the only component that dissipates power.
  • There is a discussion about the difference between instantaneous power and RMS current, with hints provided on how to approach the problem.
  • Participants clarify that the power dissipated by the resistor can be expressed as P(t) = I^2R.
  • One participant calculates the current that would dissipate 250 mW and arrives at a peak current value.
  • Another participant confirms the calculation and prompts for the corresponding RMS value of the current.
  • There is a note that the solution provided focuses on the resistor alone, which aligns with the problem statement regarding power dissipation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to calculating the RMS current and the role of the resistor in power dissipation. However, there are nuances in the discussion regarding the interpretation of instantaneous versus RMS values, and some uncertainty remains about the necessity of additional information.

Contextual Notes

There are references to different expressions for power and the importance of understanding the phase relationships in AC circuits, which may not have been fully resolved in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students studying electrical circuits, particularly those dealing with AC power calculations and the behavior of resistors and inductors in series circuits.

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Homework Statement


The series combination of a 1 kΩ resistor and a 2 H inductor must not dissipate more than 250 mW of power at any instant. Assuming a sinusoidal current with ω=500 rad/s, what is the largest rms current that can be tolerated?


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Uploaded. I am confused about finding the current? I am not sure what to do from where I am do I multiply my current value I found by V again and set it equal to .250 W and solve for v then plug back in and solve for I. Which I can the plug into the equation for Ieff.
 
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You don't need to muck about with voltage if you use an appropriate expression for power.
 
woops! I forgot to upload
 

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Hmm appropriate expression for power do you mean like P=I^2R
 
DODGEVIPER13 said:
Hmm appropriate expression for power do you mean like P=I^2R

Yup. The resistor is the only component in the circuit that can dissipate power (inductors store and return power, but they don't dissipate it).

If the question had asked about the instantaneous apparent power supplied by the current source, then you'd have to worry about the phase of the voltage across the components. But they didn't ask that, they asked for dissipated power.

If the source is an ideal current supply, then for a series circuit you KNOW that that is the current through all devices, and there's no phase difference for that current for the individual components.
 
So do You mean (v/1414)^2 (1000) = .250 but that would be finding voltage?
 
Is there anything I can do with my Z value that would allow me to find I without voltage?
 
You're looking for the maximum I. Find the peak (instantaneous) power dissipated for a given I.

Hint: For the instantaneous peak you'll want to use a current value that is a peak (not rms).
 
Well instantaneous power is i(t)v(t)=P I found V(t)/1414 = I. I am a little lost what can I do here.
 
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I(t)=(Vm/1414)cos(wt-45)
 
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What is the component in the circuit that dissipates power?
 
  • #12
the resistor
 
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Lets keep going the way we are going but in case it gets too late I have uploaded a solution that I fully understand except two parts.
 

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DODGEVIPER13 said:
the resistor

Right. What's the power dissipated by a resistor with a given current I?
 
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P(t)=I^2R
 
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So what current I will dissipate the 250 mW?
 
  • #17
.250=I^2(1000) then I=.015811
 
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DODGEVIPER13 said:
.250=I^2(1000) then I=.015811

Yes, and using appropriate units: I = 15.81 mA (peak). Always include units when you're presenting results!

To what rms value of current does that correspond?
 
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15.81/sqrt(2)=11.181 mA
 
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sorry Ieff=11.181 mA
 
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Yup, that's what I figure too.
 
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Wait so that's it no need for anything else? Heh dang I gues the other stuff was excess information.
 
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DODGEVIPER13 said:
15.81/sqrt(2)=11.181 mA

Note that, in the solution you've attached, the result is calculated for the peak amplitude of the instantaneous power delivered to the total load. Your solution is for the resistor alone, which I think makes more sense given the problem statement you provided.

As gneill wrote, 'dissipate' in this context usually means 'to consume real power', which only the resistor does.
 

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