Find the depth of a tube submerged in water that is half filled with air

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To find the depth of a tube submerged in water that is half-filled with air, the pressure of the compressed air inside the tube must be considered alongside the atmospheric pressure. The ideal gas law indicates that when the volume of the air is halved, its pressure doubles, leading to a new pressure that is equal to atmospheric pressure multiplied by two. The relationship between the pressures at the air/water interface and the depth of water can be expressed using the equation P = P(initial) + ρgh. The discussion emphasizes the importance of recognizing that pressure must be equal at the same height within a fluid, guiding the calculation of the water depth. Understanding these principles allows for the determination of the tube's submerged depth in the lake.
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Homework Statement



A tube of length L = 25 m that is open at one end contains air at atmospheric pressure. This is done in Denver so atmospheric pressure P = .667 X (1.10 X 105 Pa). The tube is thrust vertically into a freshwater lake until water rises halfway up in the pipe. Find the depth of the tube in the water. Note: air can be treated as an ideal gas.

In the attachment there is a picture on problem #5. The picture will really help clarify the problem.

Homework Equations


P = P(initial) + \rhogd
\SigmaF = ma
P=F/A

The Attempt at a Solution


I know the pressure of the air inside the tube and I also know that the forces exerted by the air and the water are the same but I am just not sure how to tie all of these things together to find the depth.
 

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Hint: What's the pressure of the compressed air in the tube?
 
Isn't it equal to the atmospheric pressure?
 
KEØM said:
Isn't it equal to the atmospheric pressure?
Not after being compressed. (How did its volume change?)
 
By putting it in the water the volume was halved so the pressure is the atmospheric pressure divided by 2?
 
KEØM said:
By putting it in the water the volume was halved so the pressure is the atmospheric pressure divided by 2?
No. Use the hint that the air can be treated as an ideal gas. (What's the ideal gas law?) You can assume the temperature is constant.
 
But I don't know the volume or the number of moles either.
 
KEØM said:
But I don't know the volume or the number of moles either.
You don't care about the actual volume, only that it went from V to V/2. The number of moles is constant.
 
Ok so I solved for pressure now can I use this in the formula P = P(initial) + \rhogd but I am not sure if that will work.
 
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Make use of the fact that the pressure must be the same at the same height in a fluid. What must the water pressure be right at the air/water interface in the tube?
 
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