Find the exact volume of a bounded surface. Multiple Integrals.

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The problem involves finding the exact volume of a solid bounded above by the surface z=e^{-x^2-y^2}, below by the xy-plane, and on the side by the circle defined by x^2+y^2=1. The discussion centers around the use of double integrals and polar coordinates to compute this volume.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the double integral and the transition to polar coordinates. There are questions regarding the correct limits of integration and whether the surface needs to be split into separate integrals. Some participants express uncertainty about the calculations and the interpretation of the bounds.

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The discussion has progressed with participants attempting to establish the correct form of the integral in polar coordinates. Some have provided guidance on the limits of integration and the integrand, while others are still clarifying their understanding of the setup.

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There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions regarding the limits of integration and the nature of the surfaces involved. Participants are questioning the definitions and setups necessary for the double integral without reaching a final consensus.

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1. Ok, so the question is.. Find the exact volume of the solid bounded above by the surface [itex]z=e^{-x^2-y^2}[/itex], below by the xy-plane, and on the side by [itex]x^2+y^2=1[/itex].
2. Alright. So, I know that I can use a double integral to find the volume, and switching to polar coordinates would be simpler.[itex]z=e^{-r^2}[/itex] and [itex]r^2 =1[/itex], therefore [itex]z=e^{-1}[/itex].
3. I'm not sure how to calculate the double integral. I know volume would be the double integral of the top surface minus the bottom surface, but do i need to split the surface into two separate double integrals and add them together? This should be easy but I can't seem to figure this out.
 
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notorious_lx said:
1. Ok, so the question is.. Find the exact volume of the solid bounded above by the surface [itex]z=e^{-x^2-y^2}[/itex], below by the xy-plane, and on the side by [itex]x^2+y^2=1[/itex].



2. Alright. So, I know that I can use a double integral to find the volume, and switching to polar coordinates would be simpler.[itex]z=e^{-r^2}[/itex] and [itex]r^2 =1[/itex], therefore [itex]z=e^{-1}[/itex].
Not quite. ##r=1## only on the bounding surface. But inside the volume you need to use ##e^{-r^2}##.
3. I'm not sure how to calculate the double integral. I know volume would be the double integral of the top surface minus the bottom surface, but do i need to split the surface into two separate double integrals and add them together? This should be easy but I can't seem to figure this out.

Not sure what is bothering you here. What do you get when you set up the integral in polar coordinates using "top - bottom" surface in the integrand as you suggest?
 
You integrate [itex]e^{-r^2}[itex]with r from 0 to 1, [itex]\theta[/itex] from 0 to [itex]2\pi[/itex]. The "differential of area" in polar coordinates is [itex]r dr d\theta[/itex].[/itex][/itex]
 
OK here is what I have so far..

[itex]\int_0^{2\pi} \int_{-rsinθ}^{rsinθ} (e^{-r^2}-{\frac{1}{e}})rdrdθ + \int_0^{2\pi} \int_{-rsinθ}^{rsinθ} ({\frac{1}{e}}rdrdθ)[/itex]

I'm not sure if this is right.. I may be overthinking this way too much.. haha

edit: This is just equal to [itex]\int_0^{2\pi} \int_{-rsinθ}^{rsinθ} (e^{-r^2})rdrdθ[/itex] right?
 
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notorious_lx said:
OK here is what I have so far..

[itex]\int_0^{2\pi} \int_{-rsinθ}^{rsinθ} (e^{-r^2}-{\frac{1}{e}})rdrdθ + \int_0^{2\pi} \int_{-rsinθ}^{rsinθ} ({\frac{1}{e}}rdrdθ)[/itex]

I'm not sure if this is right.. I may be overthinking this way too much.. haha

edit: This is just equal to [itex]\int_0^{2\pi} \int_{-rsinθ}^{rsinθ} (e^{-r^2})rdrdθ[/itex] right?

Well, they aren't equal because you dropped the ##\frac 1 e##. But where did that come from anyway?? And your inner limits, the ##r## limits, are incorrect. What is the equation of the circle ##x^2+y^2=1## in polar coordinates? Where did the ##\sin\theta## terms come from?
 
ok i had [itex]\int_0^1 \int_{-\sqrt{1-x^2}}^{\sqrt{1-x^2}} (e^{-(x^2+y^2)})[/itex]
Then I did this and used [itex]r^2=1[/itex], but this is only on the boundary so this is incorrect.
[itex] \begin{align}<br /> &= \sqrt{1-x^2}\\<br /> &= \sqrt{r^2-r^2\cos^2{\theta}}\\<br /> &= r\sqrt{1-\cos^2{\theta}}\\<br /> &= r\sin{\theta}<br /> \end{align}[/itex]
 
notorious_lx said:
ok i had [itex]\int_0^1 \int_{-\sqrt{1-x^2}}^{\sqrt{1-x^2}} (e^{-(x^2+y^2)})[/itex]
Then I did this and used [itex]r^2=1[/itex], but this is only on the boundary so this is incorrect.
[itex] \begin{align}<br /> &= \sqrt{1-x^2}\\<br /> &= \sqrt{r^2-r^2\cos^2{\theta}}\\<br /> &= r\sqrt{1-\cos^2{\theta}}\\<br /> &= r\sin{\theta}<br /> \end{align}<br /> <br /> [/itex]

In the integrand ##r## varies throughout the circular region. But think about how ##r,\theta## vary to cover a circle. It is the limiting values that go in the limits. You have already figured out that ##\theta## must go from ##0\rightarrow 2\pi##. Now if you start at the origin and move in any particular ##\theta## direction, what are the lower and higher limits ##r## will take?
 
r would go from 0 to 1.
so the equation would be [itex]\int_0^{2\pi} \int_0^1 (e^{-r^2})rdrd\theta[/itex]?
 
notorious_lx said:
r would go from 0 to 1.
so the equation would be [itex]\int_0^{2\pi} \int_0^1 (e^{-r^2})rdrd\theta[/itex]?

Yes. Not only is that correct, it is easier eh?
 

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