Find the forces applied to a rotating level

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on solving a physics problem involving a massless rotating bar with two masses resting on a load cell. The goal is to determine the forces acting on the masses using known parameters such as angles, velocities, and accelerations. Key equations related to tangential and normal forces are provided, alongside the relationships between these forces and the masses. The problem also raises the question of whether it can be solved with angular acceleration as an unknown. The participants emphasize the need for the original poster to show their work before receiving further assistance.
melissafern
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Homework Statement
Solve parametrically the system with g, load cell measurements and know accelerations.
Relevant Equations
to be found
Homework Statement: Solve parametrically the system with g, load cell measurements and know accelerations.
Homework Equations: to be found

Consider that we know angles tetha(t) of a mass-less link rotating about its centerr O. - so we also have velocities and accelerations - and values of bidirectional forces on a load cell under the two masses. So we have the tengential and normal forces applied to the 2 segment extremities. I need to find the two forces vector (4 unknown) which are the 2 forces applied over the masses.
 

Attachments

  • example.png
    example.png
    3.3 KB · Views: 229
Physics news on Phys.org
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

Please go ahead and start the problem so we can offer tutorial help. Until you show us your work, we are not allowed to help you.

What equations do you think you should start with? And what is the significance of the object being a "level"? I don't get that part of the question yet...
 
"Homework Equations" means standard equations that may be relevant, like ΣF=ma.
 
I have a massless and non-deformable bar with a central point which is fixed O (geometrical midpoint) and that allows rotation of the bar and separates completely tensions along the bar (so that the tangential forces on the right side are discharged in the center as well as the left side ones). On each side there is a mass ad a force acting on it. The two mass are resting on a load-cell (as a scale all around it = the red rectangular shape in the drawing) that measure the resultant forces along and perpendicular to the bar.

Input values are M1, M2, (W1)tang, (W1)norm, (W2)tang, (W2)norm, the length of the bar, angle (inclination of the bar) as a function of t and its derivatives angular velocity and angular acceleration alpha. The unknown are the 2 force vectors F1 and F2.
I would also like to ask if the problem is solvable with alpha among the unknowns.
Gravity is in the vertical direction of the drawing.

1. (W1)n= M1ωr+F1sinβ1+ M1gsinθ

2. (W2)n= M2ωr+F2sinβ2+ M2gsinθ

3. (W1)t= M1gcosθ+F1cosβ1-M1αr

4. (W2)t= M2gcosθ+F2cosβ2-M2αr

5. F1cosβ1r+M1gcosθ-M1r2α= F2cosβ2r+M2gcosθ-M2r2α

dθ/dt=ω

dω/dt=α
 

Attachments

Thread 'Collision of a bullet on a rod-string system: query'
In this question, I have a question. I am NOT trying to solve it, but it is just a conceptual question. Consider the point on the rod, which connects the string and the rod. My question: just before and after the collision, is ANGULAR momentum CONSERVED about this point? Lets call the point which connects the string and rod as P. Why am I asking this? : it is clear from the scenario that the point of concern, which connects the string and the rod, moves in a circular path due to the string...
Back
Top