Find the gain in a non-ideal op amp - check my logic

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The discussion focuses on analyzing a circuit involving a non-ideal operational amplifier (op amp) and the relationship between output voltage (V0) and source voltage (Vs). Participants clarify that the currents through the resistors in the circuit can be analyzed using Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL), specifically noting that the current through the 400Ω resistor (I0) equals the sum of the currents through two 1200Ω resistors (I1 and I2). The voltage at the op-amp's non-inverting input is determined to be half of the voltage at the junction of the three resistors, emphasizing that not all amplifiers provide a gain greater than 1.0.

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To start I have attached an image of the circuit. We are to relate the V_{0}to V_{s}. I am not exactly sure where to start with it. I know that V_{-} and the V_{+} on the op amp have to have the same voltage. The resistor that bridges the two inputs is throwing me off.

Not sure if this is the right way to start but if I look at the current through the 400\Omega resistor as I_{0}. Then using KCL:

I_{0}=I_{1}+I_{2}.

Sense there is no current running through the op amp, then what ever the current is in the first 1200\Omega is the same current in the second 1200\Omega. By this the current at V_{0} to be the current through the 600\Omega resistor.

If I put in the voltage across the head minus the voltage in the tail stuff for the currents and then solve to the V_{0}/V_{s} should be the right way.

I am curious if I am thinking about this right or I am completely off my rocker.
Thanks in advance.
 

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Just write the usual node or loop equations (I'm a node man myself).

I don't understand what you mean by "head" and "tail" stuff. Are we flipping coins here? :rolleyes:

Why is your post titled "non-ideal" op amp?
 
jkuhling said:
The resistor that bridges the two inputs is throwing me off.
Don't let it. The presence of that resistor should pique your interest! :smile:
Sense there is no current running through the op amp, then what ever the current is in the first 1200\Omega is the same current in the second 1200\Omega.
Correct. So with that pair of 1200Ω resistors forming an unloaded voltage divider, you can say the voltage at the op-amp's ⊕ input is half that at the junction of the three resistors. And you know that the voltage at the op-amp's ⊕ input must equal Vo, so you can immediately mark the voltage at the junction of the three resistors as equal to ... ?

This simplifies the network you need to analyze. Remember, amplifiers are not all designed to give a gain > 1.0
 

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