MHB Finding $a$ and $b$ When $a^2+b^2=n!$ and $a,b,n \in N$

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The discussion focuses on finding natural numbers \( a \) and \( b \) such that \( a^2 + b^2 = n! \) for \( n < 14 \). A key condition for a number to be expressed as a sum of two squares is that any prime of the form \( 4k+3 \) must appear with an even exponent in its prime factorization. The factorial \( 6! = 720 \) is identified as the first factorial that meets this criterion, as it can be expressed as \( 12^2 + 24^2 \). However, subsequent factorials up to \( 13! \) include the prime \( 7 \) only once, preventing them from being expressed as a sum of two squares. The discussion concludes that future factorials will likely continue to face similar limitations due to the presence of primes of the form \( 4k+3 \).
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$a,b,n \in N$ ,$a\leq b \,\, and \,\, n<14$
$if \,\ a^2+b^2=n!$
$find :\,\, a,b$
 
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Since n< 14, it is not too difficult to go through the possible values:
n= 1, n!= 1. There are no positive integers, a and b, such that a^2+ b^2= 1.

n= 2, n!= 2. 1^2+ 1^2= 2 so a= b= 1 is a solution.

n= 3, n!= 6. 1^2+ 5= 6 but 5 is not a square. 2^2+ 2= 6 but 2 is not a square. There are no positive integers, a and b such that a^2+ b^2= 6.

n= 4, n!= 24. 1^2+ 23= 24 but 23 is not a square. 2^2+ 20= 24 but 20 is not a square. 3^2+ 15= 24 but 15 is not a square. 4^2+ 8= 24 but 8 is not a square. There are no positive integers, a and b such that a^2+ b^2= 24.

n= 4, n!= 120. 1^2+ 119= 120 but 119 is not a square. 2^2+ 116= 120 but 116 is not a square. 3^2+ 111= 120 but 111 is not a square. 4^2+ 104= 120 but 104 is not a square. 5^2+ 95= 120 but 95 is not a square. 6^2+ 84= 120 but 84 is not a square. 7^2+ 71= 120 but 71 is not a square. 8^2+ 56= 120 but 56 is not a square. There are no positive integers, a and b, such that a^2+ b^2= 4!

Etc. tedious but doable.

It might be simpler to think in terms of "Pythagorean triples": 2, 3, 5, or 5, 12, 13, and multiples of that.
 
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Albert said:
$a,b,n \in N$ ,$a\leq b \,\, and \,\, n<14$
$if \,\ a^2+b^2=n!$
$find :\,\, a,b$
[sp]A condition for an integer to be the sum of two squares is that each prime factor of the form $4k+3$ should occur to an even power. After $2 = 1^2 + 1^2$, the next few factorials have a factor $3$ (occurring just once), which prevents them being the sum of two squares. The first factorial to have a repeated factor $3$ is $6! = 720 = 2^4\cdot3^2\cdot5$, so that is a sum of two squares. And in fact $720 = 144 + 576 = 12^2 + 24^2$. After that, the factor $7$ comes in, and occurs just once in all the factorials up to $13!$. So none of these will be a sum of two squares.

Will there ever be any more factorials that are the sum of two squares? With primes such as $11$, $19$, $23\ldots$, all of the form $4k+3$, coming into play, it will be a very long time until a factorial occurs in which each of them occurs an even number of times.[/sp]
 
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