Finding Derivative of y = 4^(-x + 3)

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function y = 4^(-x + 3), specifically focusing on the application of logarithmic differentiation and the chain rule in calculus.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the logarithmic change of base rule and the chain rule for differentiating exponential functions. There are questions about the application of these rules, particularly regarding the sign change in the derivative and the manipulation of logarithmic expressions.

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Several participants have provided insights into the differentiation process, with some clarifying the steps involved. There is an ongoing exploration of the reasoning behind the derivative's sign change and the application of logarithmic properties. No consensus has been reached, but productive dialogue is occurring.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the differentiation of functions with variable exponents, indicating a potential gap in prior knowledge or experience with these concepts.

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Find dy/dx if y = 4^(-x + 3)

I really don't know how to go about doing this.. never had to take the derivative of something with a variable as an exponent..

Thanks for the help in advance.
 
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This derivative requires the logarithmic change of base rule.
log_ax = lnx/lna
So this would become:
F(x) = 4^(3-x)
F'(x) = ln4 * (-4^(3-x))
= -2ln2 * 4^(3-x)
 
The derivative of [itex]a^x[/itex] is [itex]\ln{a} \cdot a^x[/itex] but don't forget the chain rule.
 
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TD said:
The derivative of [itex]x^a[/itex] is [itex]\ln{a} \cdot x^a[/itex] but don't forget the chain rule.

You probably meant that the derivative of [itex]a^x[/itex] is [itex]\ln{a} \cdot a^x[/itex]?
 
Little_Rascal said:
You probably meant that the derivative of [itex]a^x[/itex] is [itex]\ln{a} \cdot a^x[/itex]?
Of course (it's still morning here :blushing:)

Adjusted.
 
Or just: if y= ax, then ln(y)= x ln(a). Differentiate both sides, using the chain rule on the left.
 
Tx said:
This derivative requires the logarithmic change of base rule.
log_ax = lnx/lna
So this would become:
F(x) = 4^(3-x)
F'(x) = ln4 * (-4^(3-x))
= -2ln2 * 4^(3-x)


ok i understand that the formula for derivative of a^x is ln a * a^x

so i understand the step
F'(x) = ln 4 * (-4^(3-x)) <--- how did the 4 become negative?
and then i don't understand the next step at all...
 
The 4 becomes -4 because of the chain rule, since it says (3-x) and not just x, you have to multiply with the derivative of (3-x), which is -1 causing the sign change.
Then he just used a property of logaritms, being that ln(a^b) = b.ln(a) so ln(4) = ln(2²) = 2ln(2).
 
ah, thanks a lot :)
 

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