Finding Derivative Using 'Definition of Derivative'

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative using the definition of the derivative, specifically focusing on the function involving cube roots. Participants are exploring algebraic manipulations required to simplify the expression derived from the limit definition.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss substituting the function into the definition of the derivative and manipulating the resulting expression. There are attempts to use the conjugate to simplify the limit expression, but some participants question the effectiveness of this approach given the nature of cube roots. Others suggest using a hint provided in the problem to facilitate the simplification.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and expressing challenges in simplifying the expression. There is a recognition of the need to manipulate the numerator effectively to avoid division by zero, and some guidance has been offered regarding the multiplication strategy to achieve this.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem's requirements and hints, which are influencing their approaches. There is an acknowledgment of the algebraic difficulties encountered when dealing with cube roots in the context of the derivative definition.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


As seen above in question.


The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I substituted f(x) into the definition of derivative equation and then multiplied the expression by its conjugate, thus getting the expression in the following form:
f'(a) = lim (a + h)2/3 - a2/3 / h [(a + h)1/3 + a1/3]
...h→0

Now, from this point on, it's just algebra and I am having trouble manipulating this expression so that I can divide the "h" from the denominator. I know I am supposed to use the "hint" given in the question but how would I incorporate that into finding the answer?


Thanks.
 
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CallMeShady said:

Homework Statement


mv3l1y.jpg


Homework Equations


As seen above in question.

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I substituted f(x) into the definition of derivative equation and then multiplied the expression by its conjugate, thus getting the expression in the following form:
f'(a) = lim (a + h)2/3 - a2/3 / h [(a + h)1/3 + a1/3]
...h→0

Now, from this point on, it's just algebra and I am having trouble manipulating this expression so that I can divide the "h" from the denominator. I know I am supposed to use the "hint" given in the question but how would I incorporate that into finding the answer?

Thanks.

Well, multiplying by the conjugate, doesn't work here because getting a difference of squares isn't helpful when working with the cube root.

Use the hint given.

Let [itex]a=\sqrt[3]{x+h}\,,[/itex] and [itex]b=\sqrt[3]{x}\ .[/itex]
 
I did that but it ended up getting to this expression after some simplifications:
[ (x + h)2/3(x)1/3 - (x + h)2/3(x)1/3 ] / h
as h → 0.

You can already see what the problem is here. The numerator results in 0, which is subsequently divided by h.
 
CallMeShady said:
I did that but it ended up getting to this expression after some simplifications:
[ (x + h)2/3(x)1/3 - (x + h)2/3(x)1/3 ] / h
as h → 0.

You can already see what the problem is here. The numerator results in 0, which is subsequently divided by h.
So, what did you multiply by ?

You want to multiply [itex]\sqrt[3]{x+h}\,-\,\sqrt[3]{x}[/itex] by something that results in cubing each of those terms. Right?
 
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