Finding Displacement, Velocity, and Acceleration in a Viscously Damped System

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a problem related to a viscously damped system, specifically focusing on finding displacement, velocity, and acceleration as functions of time. The context includes homework assistance, where participants explore the necessary equations and concepts related to damped harmonic motion.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to start solving the problem and questions the adequacy of the given information.
  • Another participant suggests that the correct equations must be used, particularly emphasizing the need to account for damping in the system.
  • A participant reiterates their confusion regarding the variables and the applicability of the equation they attempted, noting that it only applies to constant acceleration scenarios.
  • There is mention of the equation for the damping force, but the participant feels they are missing key variables needed to proceed.
  • A suggestion is made to look up "damped harmonic oscillator," indicating that this topic is typically covered in introductory physics courses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the problem requires specific equations related to damped systems, but there is no consensus on which equations to use or how to apply them effectively. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct approach to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants express a lack of foundational knowledge in the subject, indicating that the material was presented quickly and is not well understood. This may limit their ability to engage with the problem effectively.

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Homework Statement


A viscously damped system has a total weight of 250 N, a spring stiffness k = 8 kN/m,
and a damping coefficient c = 0.08 kN-sec/m. Determine the displacement, velocity,
and acceleration of the mass as a function of time if it is disturbed from its equilibrium
position with an initial velocity of 0.25 m/sec with no initial displacement. Calculate
the displacement, velocity and acceleration of the mass at t = 1.75 sec.


Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know where to start with this, i tried, x = ½( v + v0 )t
Where:
x = displacement
v = velocity
v0 = initial velocity

but the question doesn't give all the varibales needed, think I'm going about it the wrong way
 
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hi man, welcome to physicsforums!

You need to use an equation which takes into account the physics of the situation. Do you know what equation to use if it was just a mass on a spring? And have you learned about how the equation should change when the motion of the mass is damped? They do give enough information, as long as you know what the equation is.
 
andrewport87 said:
I don't know where to start with this, i tried, x = ½( v + v0 )t
Where:
x = displacement
v = velocity
v0 = initial velocity

but the question doesn't give all the variables needed, think I'm going about it the wrong way
That equation only works for situations involving constant acceleration.

As BruceW noted, you first need to identify the proper physics. The phrase "viscously damped system" is a clue. The fact that there's a spring, a mass, and a damping coefficient is another.
 
BruceW said:
hi man, welcome to physicsforums!

You need to use an equation which takes into account the physics of the situation. Do you know what equation to use if it was just a mass on a spring? And have you learned about how the equation should change when the motion of the mass is damped? They do give enough information, as long as you know what the equation is.

To be honest, we got a crash course on the subject in 2 hours, then gave an assessment on it so we really haven't learned any of it and reading through the notes none of it makes sense. I'm a 4th year under graduate student and this is the first time I've ever done anything like this, its completely new, i don't even know the basics if I'm being completely honest, this has basically just been through at us and told to work through it.

only equation i can find for dampening force is:

Fd = cx

where x is the velocity and c is the coefficient and Fd is the dampening force, but again missing one of the variables, i think I'm missing something completely out
 
Try looking up "damped harmonic oscillator." This is typically covered in freshman physics.
 

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