Finding general term of a sequence

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The discussion revolves around finding the general term of the sequence 0, 4, 22, 118, 718, 5038, 40318, with the next term being 362878. Participants attempted various methods, including calculating differences and ratios, but struggled to find a clear pattern. A hint led to the recursive formula A_n = A_(n-1) * (n+1) + 2(n+1), prompting further inquiries about resolving A_(n-1) into a function of n. Ultimately, one user discovered the solution to be (N+1)! - 2, emphasizing the importance of collaborative problem-solving rather than simply providing answers. The thread highlights the challenges and strategies involved in identifying patterns in numerical sequences.
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Homework Statement



Find the general term of

0, 4, 22, 118, 718, 5038, 40318

if a1 = 0, a2 = 4 and so on.


The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried getting the differences between them, even going 4 levels deep, but that isn't working obviously, I tried seeing if the ratios are the same, but they aren't. I really don't know what to do, I just need a hint to get this problem going. Thanks for your time!
 
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The next term is 362878. Doesn't seem very hard, I guess you just have to see the trick.
 
There are, of course, an infinite number of such sequences. There is, for example a unique polynomial, of degree 6 or less, passing through those 7 points. To get that you would have to take differences "6 levels deep".
 
phinds said:
The next term is 362878. Doesn't seem very hard, I guess you just have to see the trick.
I'm not the original poster but still interested in solving this problem. Following your hint, the following is the expression I ended up with.

A_n = A_(n-1) * (n+1) + 2(n+1)

How do I go about resolving A_(n-1) to a function/expression in terms of n?
 
nmr said:
I'm not the original poster but still interested in solving this problem. Following your hint, the following is the expression I ended up with.

A_n = A_(n-1) * (n+1) + 2(n+1)

How do I go about resolving A_(n-1) to a function/expression in terms of n?

You have to take an assumed starting point, I think. I certainly did, but maybe someone with more math experience can give you an answer.

By the way, I obviously could have just posted the answer myself, but I thought I'd give the OP another shot at it, knowing that it isn't hard. I think you showed poor form in not doing the same.

The point of this forum is to help others figure things out, NOT to spoon feed them answers.
 
Going six levels deep would only give me one number left, I am thinking you would need at least 3 to see if the differences are the same. By the way, for the last value I got 18806. I am kind of stumped again. Yes I typed the sequence into wolfram alpha and got answers with factorials everywhere, I know I wouldn't have got that on my own.
 
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phinds said:
You have to take an assumed starting point, I think. I certainly did, but maybe someone with more math experience can give you an answer.

By the way, I obviously could have just posted the answer myself, but I thought I'd give the OP another shot at it, knowing that it isn't hard. I think you showed poor form in not doing the same.

The point of this forum is to help others figure things out, NOT to spoon feed them answers.

It is even poorer form to post an incorrect solution, as the previous OP has done.
 
I figured it out, (N+1)! - 2, thank you all!
 

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