Finding Implicit and Explicit Solutions for Initial-Value Problems

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The discussion revolves around finding both implicit and explicit solutions for an initial-value problem involving a differential equation. The specific equation is \(\frac{dx}{dt}=4(x^2+1)\) with the initial condition \(x(\frac{\pi}{4})=1\).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the process of integrating the equation and the implications of introducing arbitrary constants. There is a focus on the relationship between the implicit and explicit forms of the solution, as well as the handling of constants during integration.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different approaches to the integration and questioning the implications of their choices regarding arbitrary constants. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equivalence of different forms of the equation, but no consensus has been reached on the broader implications of these choices.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of confusion regarding the integration of two functions and the resulting arbitrary constants, as well as the potential impact of their placement in the equation. This reflects a common area of uncertainty in the application of integration techniques in differential equations.

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Find an implicit and explicit solution for the given initial-value problem

\frac{dx}{dt}=4(x^2+1) for x(\frac{\pi}{4})=1

\frac{dx}{dt}=4(x^2+1)

\Rightarrow \frac{dx}{x^2+1}=4dt

\Rightarrow \tan^{-1}x+C=4t

Now I am a little stuck. Usually I just plug in my values. I am thinking of taking the tan of both sides, eh?
 
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x = tan(4t-C) looks like a good idea to me :)
 
Yes, x= tan(4t- C) is sensible. But you don't HAVE to do that to "plug in the values": your equation, as it is, says tan^{-1} + C= \pi. What is arctan 1?
 
Okay, I see now. But I have a new question, or rather just need some clarification.

In Calculus, we always integrated one dependent variable wrt one independent, which is what I am doing above here, except that something new arises in these separation of variables problems.

Since I am integrating TWO functions that are said to be equivalent, I end up with TWO arbitrary constants. Now I have been shown that they could just be moved to one side of the equation, and since one is just as arbitrary as the other, I can just write them as C (just one). I am fine with this.

But in the above example, suppose I had chose to put +C on the RHS instead of the left.
Now solving for this arbitrary constant I would have gotten that C=-\frac{3}{4}\pi instead of +\frac{3}{4}\pi

What does this all mean?
Sorry if it is obvious!

Casey
 
It just means that

\tan^{-1}x + \frac{3\pi}{4} = 4t

is equivalent to

\tan^{-1}x = 4t - \frac{3\pi}{4}

:smile:
 

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