Finding Instantaneous Acceleration/Velocity

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The discussion revolves around finding instantaneous velocity and acceleration using graphs, specifically acceleration vs. time and position vs. time graphs. The original poster is preparing for a physics test and seeks clarification on methods to extract these values from the graphs provided in their review sheet.

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  • Participants discuss methods for determining instantaneous velocity and acceleration from graphs, including finding tangents and areas under curves. Questions arise regarding the accuracy and simplicity of these methods, particularly the process of finding tangents for instantaneous velocity.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to find instantaneous values from the graphs. Some participants offer guidance on using derivatives and integrals, while others express confusion and seek simpler alternatives. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and approaches without reaching a consensus.

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The original poster mentions specific problems from a review sheet, indicating a focus on preparation for an upcoming test. There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion regarding the methods discussed.

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Hi, you guys seem really helpful so I didnt think the template was necessary as my question dosent really fit those guidelines.

Im currently working on a review sheet for my Physics test tomorrow, and am having trouble finding the instantaneous velocity from looking at a acceleration vs. time graph and the instantaneous velocity from a position vs. time graph.

the problems i need help with are 1c and 2d on this page:http://www.jburroughs.org/science/mschober/consta/sframe.htm

Im just looking for a general method on how to complete these problems.

thanks so much in advance, Adam
 
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using an acceleration vs. time graph you simply need to find the tangent at that point. remember [tex]Lim _{\Delta x \rightarrow 0}[/tex] [tex]\frac{f(x+\Delta x)-f(x)}{\Delta x}[/tex]

And for velocity from a position vs. time graph you just need to find the area under the graph. [tex]\sum f(x) \Delta x[/tex]
 
djeitnstine said:
using an acceleration vs. time graph you simply need to find the tangent at that point. remember [tex]Lim _{\Delta x \rightarrow 0}[/tex] [tex]\frac{f(x+\Delta x)-f(x)}{\Delta x}[/tex]

And for velocity from a position vs. time graph you just need to find the area under the graph. [tex]\sum f(x) \Delta x[/tex]

thanks for the reply, but I am still kind of confused. When looking at a position vs. time graph, wouldn't the area under the curve be the velocity over that time interval, not the specific time?
 
Oops I have all of that backwards.

let me rewrite that:

using a position vs. time graph you simply need to find the tangent at that point. remember [tex]Lim _{\Delta x \rightarrow 0}[/tex] [tex]\frac{f(x+\Delta x)-f(x)}{\Delta x}[/tex]

And for velocity from a acceleration vs. time graph you just need to find the area under the graph. [tex]\sum f(x) \Delta x[/tex]

I'm really sorry if I confused you.
 
ok gotcha. Just curious, is there any other simpler way to find the inst. velocity that finding the tangent? It takes a long time and seems to be pretty inaccurate.
 
Just take the derivative of the function at hand for the position/time graph and take the integral of the acceleration/time graph (derived using the formulas I gave you above.)
 

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