Finding mass from moment of inertia graph - inconsistency?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass of a disk using its moment of inertia at different radial distances from the center. The user applied the parallel axis theorem but encountered inconsistencies when recalculating the moment of inertia, leading to confusion about the problem's setup. It was highlighted that the disk may not have uniform mass density, which affects the moment of inertia calculations. The user realized that incorrect assumptions about the disk's properties led to the discrepancies in their results. Ultimately, the importance of careful consideration of assumptions in physics problems was emphasized.
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Homework Statement


I have a disk that can rotate about an axis at a radial distance h from the center of the disk. I am given a graph showing the the rotational inertia I of the disk as a function of the distance h from the center of the disk out to the edge of the disk. From the graph (see attached picture) I can see that the ends of the graph are as follows: when h is zero (i.e. the axis is right on the center of the disk) I = 0.03 kg*m^2 and when h = 0.2m, I = 0.63 kg*m^2.

I am asked to determine the mass of the disk from these data.

Homework Equations



##I_p = I_{cm} + Md^2## (parallel axis theorem)
##I_{disk} = 1/2Mr^2## (the moment of inertia of a disk about its CM)

The Attempt at a Solution



Let point A be when h = 0, i.e. the axis is right on the CM. Let point B be when h = 0.2, i.e. on the edge of the disk. Applying the parallel axis theorem to both locations and given the values from the problem:

##I_B = I_{disk} + M(0.2)^2 = 0.63##
##I_A = I_{disk} + M(0)^2 = 0.03##

Subtracting the second equation from the first gives

##I_B - I_A = 0.63 - 0.03 = 0.60 = M[(0.2)^2 - 0^2]##

and so M = 15kg, which is the correct answer. But if I actually try to use this to recalculate the moment of inertia of the disk I get

##I_{disk} = 1/2Mr^2 = 1/2(15)(0.2^2) = 0.3 \not= I_A = 0.03##

and similarly I get the "wrong" answer for I_B using the parallel axis theorem. Is the problem just written poorly, or am I missing something really obvious here?

Thanks for any help... first time using Tex... hope I did okay.
 

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Hello, and welcome to PF!

You're thinking correctly. Note that the problem does not state that the disk is of uniform mass density. So, it might be a disk where Icm is not given by (1/2)Mr2.
 
Oh, of course! I was completely on autopilot and made that assumption without thinking.

Thanks so much!
 
The problem was poorly written ... the disk's radius is only .067m, but they can spin it around an axis that's 3x that far from the center!
(expensive massless washer way bigger than the real disk?) . They should re-program the range of I_A values.
 
I'm admittedly not sure where you are getting 0.067 m from. The problem statement implies that the edge of the disk from the center and thus the radius is 0.2 m.
 
oops, 0.0632 m ... from I_disk = 0.03 kgm^2 and mass 15kg.
 
Right, but as TSny pointed out it's probably not reasonable here to assume the disk is uniform.
 
they called it a disk ... they're supposed to guide your model, not mis-guide it.
even a sphere would need radius less than about .1m !
 
While I don't disagree, at the end of the day the bottom line is I made an assumption I shouldn't have, and that's what caused my problem on this problem, and I'll be more careful about my assumptions in the future.
 

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