Finding Maximum Current Entering A Terminal

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The problem involves finding the maximum current entering a terminal based on a given expression for charge over time. The context is rooted in calculus and the behavior of exponential functions in relation to electrical components.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss taking the derivative of the charge equation to find current and explore methods for determining the maximum value of this derivative. There is mention of using second derivatives and setting them to zero, though some express uncertainty about the correctness of their derivatives.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's mathematical approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the differentiation process, and there is an acknowledgment of potential errors in the original poster's calculations.

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Participants note the complexity of the derivatives involved and question whether all terms in the original expression have been accounted for in the differentiation process. There is an emphasis on ensuring accuracy in algebraic manipulation.

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Homework Statement



The expression for the charge entering an upper terminal of a component is:

q = 1/\alpha^{2} - (t/\alpha + 1/\alpha^{2})e^{-t\alpha}

Find the maximum value of the current entering the terminal if \alpha = 0.03679 s^{-1}

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Since they gave us the equation for the charge, to find current we simply take the derivative with respect to time of the given equation. I did this and ended up with te^{-t\alpha}. This seems to check out just fine. I then realized that they want the maximum value that this derivative can be. So then I went ahead and took the second derivative and tried to set it equal to 0 (since that would be a local max or min). This ended up being very messy and it didn't work out. Is there an easier way to find the maximum current?
 
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Let me know if my mathematics is incorrect, but
\frac{dq^{2}}{d^{2}t}=e^{-t\alpha}-\alpha te^{-t\alpha}=e^{-t\alpha}(1-\alpha t)=0
e^{-t\alpha}\neq0, therefore 1-\alpha t=0

and t=\frac{1}{\alpha}

You can go from there

edit: this is going from your 1st derivative, I haven't checked it myself
 
madhatter500 said:

Homework Statement



The expression for the charge entering an upper terminal of a component is:

q = 1/\alpha^{2} - (t/\alpha + 1/\alpha^{2})e^{-t\alpha}

Find the maximum value of the current entering the terminal if \alpha = 0.03679 s^{-1}

Homework Equations






The Attempt at a Solution



Since they gave us the equation for the charge, to find current we simply take the derivative with respect to time of the given equation. I did this and ended up with te^{-t\alpha}. This seems to check out just fine. I then realized that they want the maximum value that this derivative can be. So then I went ahead and took the second derivative and tried to set it equal to 0 (since that would be a local max or min). This ended up being very messy and it didn't work out. Is there an easier way to find the maximum current?

Not too comfortable with your first derivative. t appears in two places in the original expression. I think you may have overlooked one??
 
MetalManuel said:
Let me know if my mathematics is incorrect, but
\frac{dq^{2}}{d^{2}t}=e^{-t\alpha}-\alpha te^{-t\alpha}=e^{-t\alpha}(1-\alpha t)=0
e^{-t\alpha}\neq0, therefore 1-\alpha t=0

and t=\frac{1}{\alpha}

You can go from there

edit: this is going from your 1st derivative, I haven't checked it myself

Perfect. This gives me the correct answer. Looks like I need to brush up on my algebra! Thank you!
 

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