Finding Minimum from a completion of a square

In summary: You can solve for a by substituting one of the equations into the other and then solving for a. Once you have a, you can plug it back into either equation to solve for alpha.
  • #36
Diving both equations would give [itex]\tan \alpha = - \sqrt 3 [/itex] from which you can get alpha.
 
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  • #37
but if u divide them both it will be

[tex]a\tan{\alpha} = -\frac{\sqrt{3}}{3}[/tex]
 
  • #38
The a will cancel out and what you wrote isn't correct. You either divide the first by the second and get [itex]\cot \alpha = - \sqrt 3 /3[/itex] or you divide the second by the first and you get what I had, which has the same solutions for alpha of course :smile:
 
  • #39
so what is the final answer? [itex]\tan \alpha = - \sqrt 3 [/itex]
and that's it?
 
  • #40
Now find alpha...
 
  • #41
what do you mean find alpha? didnt we just do that? is that -60 degrees or [tex]\frac{-\pi}{3}[/tex]

its just that i have no idea on what the final equation looks like both sides don't match at all right now, i have:

[tex]\sqrt{3}\sin{2t} - 3\cos{2t} = -\frac{\pi}{3}[/tex]

is that correct so far?
 
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  • #42
Yes, or 2pi/3. Now it's easy to find a using one of the two equations.
 
  • #43
wait you said you can find A by using one of the two equations, you mean like this

[tex]a\sin{2pi/3} = -3[/tex]


?
 
  • #44
Indeed, now solve for a.
 
  • #45
i would get -3.464 now what do i do with that? can you just tell me the answer its been 7 hours already...
 
  • #46
sin(2pi/3) = sqrt3/2, so a = -2sqrt3 when you use that angle alpha.
You can find another solution by using the other angle.
 
  • #47
what other angle?! we only have -60
 
  • #48
[tex]\tan \alpha = - \sqrt 3 \Leftrightarrow \alpha = - \pi /3 + 2k\pi \,\, \vee \,\, \alpha = 2\pi /3 + 2k\pi \Leftrightarrow \alpha = 2\pi /3 + k\pi [/tex]
 
  • #49
...this is awsome almost 8 hours and still no answer
 
  • #50
Perhaps you should re-read all of the posts and think carefully, all the necessary information has been said. If something is still unclear, be specific about what the problem actually is.
 
  • #51
after all this 50 some post...look at the progression...

[tex]\sqrt{3}\sin{2t} - 3\cos{2t} = -\frac{\pi}{3}[/tex]

seems to me that this is gettin further away from the answer...
 
  • #52
Seems to me that you have not carefully read everything which has been said. The -pi/3 was a solution for alpha, not for the RHS in general.
 

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