Finding Pauli matrices WITHOUT ladder operators

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Does anyone know of an alternative way of calculating the Pauli spin matrices\mbox{ \sigma_x} and \mbox{ \sigma_y} (already knowing \mbox { \sigma_z} and the (anti)-commutation relations), without using ladder operators \mbox{ \sigma_+} and \mbox{ \sigma_- }?

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Does anyone know of an alternative way of calculating the Pauli spin matrices \sigma_x and \sigma_y (already knowing \sigma_z and the (anti)-commutation relations), without using ladder operators \sigma_+ and \sigma_- ?

How about brute force ? Knowing that you need traceless hermitean 2x2 matrices, you put in the unknowns, write out all the equations anti-comm relations ... and solve ?

cheers,
Patrick.
 
vanesch said:
How about brute force ? Knowing that you need traceless hermitean 2x2 matrices, you put in the unknowns, write out all the equations anti-comm relations ... and solve ?

cheers,
Patrick.

Brute force was my initial plan :shy: problem is: Only using comm and anti-comm I get a whole bunch of possible solutions (like e.g. \sigma_x'=-\sigma_x=(0 & -1 \\ -1 & 0) and \sigma_y'=-sigma_y=(0 & i \\ -i \\ 0) ) also obeying these commutation relations.

I would like to restrict these solutions to the 'traditional' Pauli matrices... Am I forgetting some basic equations somewhere that 'll do just that? :cry:
 
Any representation is as good as another !
You find one, and make a rotation to go to the one you want.
 
I give here an alternative way to find the Pauli matrices, which seems natural to me. Any U(2) matrix can be parameterized by :
<br /> M_{U(2)} = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> e^{\imath u}\cos(\theta) &amp; e^{\imath v}\sin(\theta)\\<br /> -e^{\imath w}\sin(\theta) &amp; e^{\imath (w+v-u)}\cos(\theta)<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />

and this reduces in the subgroup SU(2) to w+v=0 or :

<br /> M_{SU(2)} = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> e^{\imath u}\cos(\theta) &amp; e^{\imath v}\sin(\theta)\\<br /> -e^{-\imath v}\sin(\theta) &amp; e^{-\imath u}\cos(\theta)<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />

Now as usual to find the generators, one differentiate with respect to each parameters, and takes the values near the identity :

<br /> \frac{\partial M}{\partial\theta} = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> -e^{\imath u}\sin(\theta) &amp; e^{\imath v}\cos(\theta)\\<br /> -e^{-\imath v}\cos(\theta) &amp; -e^{-\imath u}\sin(\theta)<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)_{\theta=0,u=0,v=0}<br /> =<br /> \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 0 &amp; 1\\<br /> -1&amp; 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />


<br /> \frac{\partial M}{\partial u} = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> \imath e^{\imath u}\cos(\theta) &amp; 0\\<br /> 0 &amp; -\imath e^{-\imath u}\cos(\theta)<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)_{\theta=0,u=0,v=0}<br /> =<br /> \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> \imath &amp; 0\\<br /> 0&amp; -\imath<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />


<br /> \frac{\partial M}{\partial w} = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 0 &amp; \imath e^{\imath v}\sin(\theta)\\<br /> \imath e^{-\imath v}\sin(\theta) &amp; 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)_{\theta=0,u=0,v=0}<br /> =<br /> \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 0 &amp; 1\\<br /> 1&amp; 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />


But these are not the Pauli matrices, they differ by a factor -\imath. This is exactly what is done : the Pauli matrices define an arbitrary SU(2) matrix by :
<br /> M_{SU(2)} =e^{\imath \vec{L}\cdot\vec{\sigma}\alpha/2}=\sigma_0\cos(\frac{\alpha}{2})<br /> -\imath \vec{L}\cdot\vec{\sigma}\sin(\frac{\alpha}{2})<br /> with \sigma_0 the identity, \vec{L} a unitary vector directing the rotation axis, and \alpha the rotation angle. By differentiating this near the identity, one recovers the correct -\imath factor w.r.t. the previously calculated matrices.
 
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