Finding pH Values for Acids and Bases Without Experiments

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining pH values for various acids and bases without conducting experiments. Participants share their challenges in finding pH values and seek resources to assist with their understanding of pH calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in determining pH values for specific substances, including hydrogen peroxide, isopropyl alcohol, saline solution, Pepto-Bismol, and tonic water.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the relationship between hydrogen ion concentration and pH, stating the formula pH = -log [H+].
  • A subsequent reply explains the formula, indicating that the negative log of the hydrogen ion concentration yields the pH value.
  • One participant reports finding a helpful resource that clarified their understanding of pH calculations.
  • A participant shares a link to a site that provides extensive information about pH.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the pH values of the specific substances mentioned, and there is no agreement on a single resource for determining pH values. The discussion includes both confusion and clarification regarding the concept of pH.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the pH calculation process and the specific pH values of the substances listed, indicating a reliance on external resources for clarification.

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I have to place two acids and two bases from a previous assignment on a pH scale using the information I acquired during that particular experiment. The problem is, I couldn't get all the materials I needed so I didn't get to do the assignment. I've been able to figure out what vinegar's pH is but I can't seem to figure out any others. Does anyone know of any sites I could use?

The things I can place are as follows:

Hydrogen peroxide
Isopropyl alcohol
Saline solution
Pepto-Bismol
Tonic water
 
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Ah, I'm completely lost...:bugeye:

What is the relationship between [H+] and pH?

pH = -log [H+]

H3O+

I'm trying, desperately, to grasp something but my mind is blank. I'm not comprehending anything here...help...:cry:
 
AngelShare said:
Ah, I'm completely lost...:bugeye:

What is the relationship between [H+] and pH?

pH = -log [H+]

H3O+

I'm trying, desperately, to grasp something but my mind is blank. I'm not comprehending anything here...help...:cry:

You've given the relationship pH = -log [H+].

In this equation, [H+] is the concentration of the hydorgen ion in the solution. So, if you take the negative log of the hydrogen ion concentration (to the base 10), you get the pH.

Do you understand now?
 
Yes, I found another site that explained it better, worked through a couple of problems, and figured it out.:smile:
 
Ah, good site Borek, thanks!:biggrin:
 

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